Kanye West DJ Akademiks Interview March 2025

Unknown: Good morning.Ye: Yes sir. Good seeing you man.DJ Akademiks: How's everything with you, brother?Ye: Good, good, chilling.DJ Akademiks: The legend, man. How do you stay out here, dog?Ye: I just be in my office, chilling.DJ Akademiks: I thought we were going to do it at the warehouse.Ye: I know, right, but I was supposed to leave yesterday, but then I was going to do the interview with you yesterday, and I was doing it earlier.DJ Akademiks: I seen the online shit. I'm like, damn, what the fuck is happening?Ye: Yeah, so I just got a little bit exhausted from that bullshit. It was just...DJ Akademiks: I get it.Ye: I think my job is decent, right?DJ Akademiks: Wait, is that a game? What game is that? Oh, what do you play on that, like Pokemon?Ye: That's a Nintendo Switch.DJ Akademiks: I don't know. I don't know why I thought, like, it would be up here with, like, some NPCs, like, banging it out type shit.Ye: It does look kind of like a Switch, right?DJ Akademiks: It does, but it's not. That's not a Switch. Switch, you could take the move from. That's probably some new shit, man.Ye: Yeah. Now I'm calm. Now I'm calm. Now I'm calm.DJ Akademiks: I don't know. For another reason, I thought, like, there was going to be, like, assistance staff.Ye: I like it. A little bit simple.DJ Akademiks: Oh, boy.Ye: Hmm?DJ Akademiks: A little saucy in here, eh? A little hot.Ye: Hot forward or backwards. My hat. Not the other hat. My hat.DJ Akademiks: This way? Or this way?Ye: This is, like, the classic look. Yo, I've been trying to take off my hat for a while. You know what I mean? Don't let it go over your head. But, yeah.DJ Akademiks: Nah. Nah. Okay. You can get a good angle if I'm sitting here. Where's that stick? Right here?Ye: Wherever you want. You can sit right here. What do you think?DJ Akademiks: Okay. So, it's, like, magnetic. So, one goes in here.Ye: Oh, shit. I think I fell. Oh, yeah.DJ Akademiks: I see the bust-down chain, too, man.Ye: Yeah.DJ Akademiks: Bro. Took that Nazi chain and made it bust.Ye: But... I wonder where with this, but the part comes down a little bit too low. Like, it need to sit right there. I got a white leather one and fall right in the perfect place.DJ Akademiks: Really?Ye: Yeah.DJ Akademiks: You got this made specifically.Ye: Absolutely. The leather, the nigga KKK shit. Once again.DJ Akademiks: I think the best place for the photo. Can we move that to the side? Damn. Can't move this shit up. It'll be, like, here. Or...Ye: Bro, you're just a designer at heart, man. Like...DJ Akademiks: I need to get a very... Like, if you had that chair. If we had, like, two of them, right? It would probably work. If you're looking for that type of one. How do you just stand? The best thing would be right here. And then you put... You put your chair right there. Take my Thames.Ye: So, like, put this there?DJ Akademiks: Yeah. Like, if you... Okay. I'm going to get this out of the way. Yeah. It's perfect. So, you take that out of the way. So, we just have, like, this framing right here.Ye: Okay.DJ Akademiks: So, move this or keep it?Ye: Yeah.DJ Akademiks: All right. Like... We keep this as the middle? Or...Ye: I would take that over. Just out. You know... You don't need none of that bullshit.DJ Akademiks: Yeah. Now, how would you... What's the frame look like? Because I like just standing right here.Ye: Okay. But also... It'd be nice if... Like, if you sat back here, you can get, like, a full frame.DJ Akademiks: Now, do you want to talk to me or stand when I'm here? Like this.Ye: I mean... I'm letting you set this on right now. What do you think? I should have to... Throw the boots on with it.DJ Akademiks: Have you worn this out in public?Ye: Nah. You know, the funny thing is, I really wanted to wear it yesterday. But... I thought they would, like, put me in a hospital for my outfit.DJ Akademiks: Yeah.Ye: You know what I'm saying? Like, they would put me in the hospital for my outfit, so...DJ Akademiks: Well, like... So, even yesterday, I'm watching the video. And I'm like... Like, who do you think... Like, someone knocks on the door. That's what the tweet said or the video said.Ye: Yeah.DJ Akademiks: Who do you think that is? And what do you think... Obviously, you're saying things that... How you feel at the moment.Ye: Yeah.DJ Akademiks: And some people might feel like you're ruffling feathers. But who do you think would care that much that they would want to threaten your life? Because you do feel like your life is a little bit of a threat, right?Ye: Yeah. Yeah. I think... I definitely, when I start balking up for my kids... Mm-hmm. I definitely feel... I definitely feel... One second, let me just... Yeah. I definitely feel... That I was pushing life to the limits by pushing into the truth. Like, we know that wasn't surprising when I put that image up of my youngest daughter. That wasn't, like, the most surprising idea. But it'd be things that happened that we know happened that we just can't do anything about. But then they push whatever agendas, like, on the media that they want us to focus on. And that's something where, you know, I don't know who the people are, you know? So it would sound like real conspiracy theory. I just know that the kid from Lincoln Park got killed for expressing some of these same truths. And for me, just as a father, at a certain point, it's not about... It never was that. But when you're a celebrity, it starts to be about more of what fame is going to get you, what clout is going to get you, what money is going to get you over. Is this the right thing for your children? And, you know, I'm willing to die for my children or to allow them to be in this kind of environment that I know they're in. And what I noticed on the comments, they always used to try to, like, for the past 10 years, they used to try to write me off. Oh, he's so crazy. He's so crazy. I'm seeing the comments is now, like, 60%, 70%. Like, yo, he's just telling you exactly what's going on. He's just the only one that's in a position to be able to do it. Because I don't have any brand sponsorships. It's just like, I'm past cancel. So these people out here, they're toying, they're playing. It's interesting. The swastika. I want to just, you know, I know we have a little bit of time. I want to tell you, by doing it, it's sort of like a magnet where people get so mad and they start exposing themselves because the Jews, they move in the tunnels. They move where you can't see them. They're in an invisible hand. And they'll get, like, what they'll do is they'll threaten people. They'll threaten people. Well, we're going to take your tours away. We're going to drop your artists. You've got to say this. You're like, how many people put, I stand with my Jewish people, you know, three years ago? And what I did is I stood on it this time. I never backed down. That's my whole thing. That's why I was mad about removing that Jay-Z tweet because it was just like, nah, the whole idea is no matter what, I'm not going to back down. So by doing a swastika chain, it then ruffled some feathers. And then I really saw the comparison of me and Puff with the Diageo and the Adidas situation. Regardless if they could have locked me up for taxes or not, they wasn't playing fair. Like, okay, cool, fair deal. You did good. We did good. It's like, no, you're leaving. You're leaving with nothing. We have to destroy you. Even though they came and used us to tap into the culture and make money off of black people and people who enjoy black culture, if we said, like, yo, you're doing this wrong, you're taking, you're stealing my style, you're taking all of my employees, you're taking Jerry Lorenzo and making him do my same designs as he's the agreeable Kamala nigga. You know, they started lowering the budget for Puff. So I related to Puff. And then they pulled out a video with him and Cassie from 10 years ago. And then it made everybody be like, oh, you know, well, Puff's a woman beater. So he's the devil. He needs to be in jail.DJ Akademiks: Right.Ye: Meanwhile, I don't know somebody who hasn't gotten to altercation with a girl at one point and including Carti. So now Carti's like at the, he the number one guy at Rolling Loud and Puff is in jail. And then it's now you got, okay, you got two women beaters. You got two supposed pedophiles. Watch this. One is no, you got three. Watch this. Carti, Puffy, Kendrick. The two pedophiles. Drake, R. Kelly, or suppose it. But Puffy and R. Kelly are in jail with Drake five years from now or however long when they feel like they really want to get that boy up out here, they're going to play the Kendrick song. So they, that's how far they going to the Kendrick mix with the universal, all that take down of Drake reminds me of the no Diddy campaign for Diddy. Like they go all out, but see, I know how to go all out and I'm not even in their position. I just work on behalf of God. Like how this shit comes together, the timing, everything is like a God sense. I had a couple of things I want to say. So I pushed in to the Puff song. I put my daughter on the song. The timing was so perfect. She went in, wrapped it. She said, I'm getting sleepy. So she said, okay, good night. And that was the end. And she was giving me like the Lil' Kim on the old Bad Boy record. So that's why we put that. And the idea was family. It's so many people who dad actually killed somebody and they would do anything to have their, their dad home. The, the, the two, the two twins, uh, and Christian lost, they mama died and a daddy in jail and everybody running around listening to murder music, right? But being like, Puff is the enemy. And when I see all these videos, all tapes, everything Puff more like my twin, me and him got into it. Cause it's just like, I'm telling these top five niggas is like, yo, you know, actually we probably could be friends, but nigga, you ain't bringing on that shit over here. Nigga, I'm y'all niggas ain't as crazy as me. And that's why I asked Puff back in the days, it's like, man, how you just made it through all this shit, nice shit. He's like, I'm the craziest one nigga. It's like, it's like, so once them people, we family, we can get into it, but they started taking that shit too far. I started taking it personal at a certain point with, with Puff, like all of the media, cause I wake up every day, whether I did some positive negative, somebody got something negative to say, you know what I'm saying? So I relate to our idea of being torn down by the media, you know what I'm saying? But keep, keep going on. I know cause we got a short amount of time. I just want to hit you with that.DJ Akademiks: Yeah. Yeah. No, I mean, so like the whole thing about, and even whether it's the outfit, the swastika, I think some people are like, they feel like they're spreading hate. And I'm sorry, encouraging violence versus people.Ye: The thing that I forgot to say was when my daughter was put on song, that's when I realized that I didn't own their name and likeness. So watch this, all the brands that I've made, I don't get the name and likeness ownership or at least 50, 50 with my kids. So how's it joint custody? My kids are celebrities and I don't have to say so. So watch this one. So this white woman and this white family have the control of these highly influential black kids that are half the children of yay. And that's just in everybody's face. And it was playing in my face like that. You know, I was, I try to go to the champagne and keep it calm. And my dad would call me, say, yay, don't go in on that woman because it's going to affect the children. But now it's like, it's war. Y'all niggas, they think they too powerful. The Jews think they too powerful. They think they could get Carti to play with me. They think they too powerful. They think they could get Kim to play with me. The Jews and the whites above the Jews. You got what I'm saying? That's my life is on this shit now. These are my children. Carti, you could leave me off the album, do that faggot ass trap shit if you want. But now you mentioned my daughter. Like the whole plan is that y'all going to pull my kids into y'all, whatever the word is Illuminati system, and I don't have no say-so with my kids, nigga, and anybody close, whether it's the Jews, whether it's Carti, anybody within my reach, I'm doing everything legally in my power, everything with my fucking mastermind. You get what I'm saying? That's why I'm about to tweet this shit. I want Kendrick to always remember that Jay-Z tweet before he ever crossed the line. Okay. Nobody that worked for none of these fucking labels wanted with the king. I am the Don. Lucien, don't send none of your motherfucking slaves. Don't send nobody because they're getting their head torn off. Quick, quick, quick, quick. We ain't got no problem. Ain't no motherfuckers. I'm the only king. I'm the only nigga that'll go up against these niggas. I'm the only nigga that survived through this shit. You know what I'm saying? Me, pussy ass, faggot ass, pink polo ass nigga. You know what I'm saying? I ain't never killed nobody ass nigga. Fuck all you niggas. All you street niggas. All you rap niggas. Just any nigga that ever said something about my fucking heart. None of these niggas. Jay-Z, Beyonce, you ain't helped me when I fucking was having problems with my kids. You could have used your influence. No, your influence is for politics. Your influence is how you could use a nigga you never wanted to sign anyway. That dame sign. You ain't show up to my first fucking wedding. You ain't my family. I always wanted some kind of family. Never had family out here. So what the fuck? And then they take my actual blood family from me in my face. All right, so go ahead. I just had to get that stream of content.DJ Akademiks: Thank you very much, sir.Ye: Of course, of course.DJ Akademiks: I mean, I'm intrigued by it. And I think people look at some of the stuff you say on face value. I see how, you know, there's three themes that come across with everything with you. It's betrayal, it's being used, and your ideas, whether it's what you say or what you create, being censored. And I think every time I see it, no matter what you do, it falls under one of those. Like, betrayal, there's a shit ton of people. I mean, like, even the J, you don't regret the tweet, because if he says something about your daughter, you'd probably be upset, right?Ye: He should be upset. You know, I ask people, like, if I know somebody that's woke, like, I knew this girl that only, like, hangs around really super woke, like, like, some of, like, fat black girl models is, like, her friends type shit. And I was like, yo, you gotta tell me, you gotta tell me, you know, what tweets y'all didn't like.DJ Akademiks: Yeah.Ye: You gotta tell me what hurts so I could do it more.DJ Akademiks: Why?Ye: Because that's when we're weakening the enemy. We're breaking them down. All this, oh, I'm a fat bitch on the runway. I'm so powerful. No, you're not. You're causing death. That shit is unhealthy. Let's do statistics on black obesity rates. Everything that's being pushed in the media is about decentralizing and tearing down communities. Even I low-key feel like the ICE is, like, basically, like, doing to the Latin communities what they did to the black communities. It's everything to decentralize, remove the fathers. Also, I had this theory that I just wanted to say. Wait a second. I have another theory. It's about football and music industry. But I want you to get that Jay-Z answer. You get what I'm saying? Because everybody's like, what about the fact that everybody knows what I'm saying is true related to that photo that I put up with my youngest daughter, right? But everything is like, you know, but you offended Jay-Z. Fuck him. Fuck him. You know what I'm saying? Put it like this. Let's take it to money. How much money do you think Jay-Z make off my catalog versus what I make off it? Next subject.DJ Akademiks: Well, some people might feel like, well, like, even with the situation with kids, I hear you speak about that a lot. Like, nobody really spoke on your behalf. But even when you speak about Kim, people might be like, well, you picked her. Like, you put yourself in that.Ye: Absolutely, I did. That was my fault.DJ Akademiks: Maybe they're saying that you don't take accountability.Ye: No, that was my fault. I didn't want to have children with this person after the first two months of being with her. But that wasn't God's plan. But my issue with all these faggot-ass celebrity niggas is, if you ain't going to speak on my behalf of the situation I'm in right now, with my children or where I was when I asked for the help years ago, don't talk about my political views. Plus your T. Like, nigga, I bled for you. If nigga asks you about me, say we ain't speaking on yay. You know what I'm saying? Because that's how y'all looking at me like a Vic, because you a street nigga. But it ain't that time no more. I'm the lawyer off Carlito's way. I'm the boss. You niggas is broke. You niggas is not masterminds. And you niggas should never have ever gone. Look at John Legend's old sissy ass. I ain't never do nothing wrong to that nigga. I changed generations of his life. And they got all that faggot-ass hot sweater nigga come up and just, this nigga wears sweaters and motherfuckers.DJ Akademiks: Fucking, uh, August and Barbados, John Legend, and mashed potato.Ye: So, no, they say they smell like mashed potatoes. I don't know why I got this from.DJ Akademiks: They used to be your guy, though. So all these relationships, repairable, like, even the push of the Jay, the, like, there's a long list. Even Carti, like, I feel like, I know you say you want to hurt them, but you might overstep the line where maybe at a point Jay's like, man, I'm cool. Like, I think after that tweet, he definitely, you know, and I don't know if these are relationships that's salvageable.Ye: Why would I want to salvage relationships with broke-ass slaves and slave herders? Like, everybody, so this is what I'm saying. The Jay-Z thing leads me to the NFL. Why do they want a Drake to be out of there? Why do they want somebody with no hits like Kendrick to do the Super Bowl? Like, this is a theory I had. The people that ran, that run the Super Bowl had to come to people who run the music industry and be like, you guys, you're letting your niggers get out of hand. Oh, my God, that Kanye. Would somebody take a knee for a wedding? All right, let's get out of there. See, that's the problem. You let them last too long. In our league, they're for two years, three years. They're out of there. What are you doing? We're going to deal with, you know, we got Tom Brady. He's great. You know, we made Mahomes throw that fucking Super Bowl, you know, so Tom can get his seventh ring and shit. But, like, you guys at the music industry, what you know you've got to do is start getting smaller artists and put them on. We're going to set you up. We're going to take Roland Loud. We're going to connect them with Live Nation. And then we're going to get a bunch of small artists. And then, you know, you'll be able to make your money off of that. And then, you know, if we take, oh, Carti's doing good, we'll make him take the Blue Pill. We'll have him rap about scams. And then mention Northwest. We love Northwest. All right, Kanye, don't worry about him. Damn, he's a lunatic. Don't worry about him. Does any of that sound right or sound accurate to you?DJ Akademiks: Yeah, if you look, it does seem like, I don't know if it's that control, but you can see, you can see.Ye: Wait a second. You don't think, you can see my eyes to the mask right there. You don't know if it's that control. Meaning, but.DJ Akademiks: So, I'm the person who, again, I'm not going to ignore me, like, ignore me, where, like, I'm the guy on Twitter. But I'm like, wait, you really think there's, like, this hidden hand that's really kind of moving in this direction or it just kind of happens to be?Ye: Do you think it's not? Do you think it's a possibility that it's not? You think it's just all by chance and shit?DJ Akademiks: I wouldn't be opposed to it, but it feels like you know a little bit more. That's why a lot of people are intrigued, too.Ye: Yeah.DJ Akademiks: Because if, if probably one of the richest rappers ever is.Ye: Not probably, definitely, but keep going on.DJ Akademiks: Like, when you've gotten to the heist, and I'm saying you're the greatest hip-hop artist ever, when that person's then telling us it's like that, you then got to step back and be like, he knows definitely something we don't know.Ye: Yeah.DJ Akademiks: And, and, and I think that's where we're also trying to, like, watch you and even listen, even if people don't like some of the stuff you say, they're like, they're trying to figure out what, connect the dots and really see what's going on.Ye: Well, you know what, I'm a leader, and I channel, and I don't see everything. You know, I didn't picture us being here right now. I didn't have this vision yesterday, but I had one bag with me. I just got my leather outfit, and I, it was there. So it's, man, I always thought, wow, that would make a really iconic interview setting. And I'm happy that I'm not sitting in it. And this is now making the movie. Like I said, with the North situation, and on the song with his son, and the new artist, Jasmine Williams, it happened like that. Certain things I lean into. People think I'm strategic. The enemy might, you know, my enemy, our enemy, might think I'm strategic. But I'm not strategic. I just lean into what I really feel, and I say my truth, and whatever comes with it, comes with it. But my truth is so obvious to so many people because people are not allowed to say their truth to the point where they psych themselves out to think it's not true. And then, so I'm not saying people's truth. I'm saying people's feeling now because your truth can be told to you. You can be programmed, but your gut is going to have millions of lifetimes of information. So when I go and I tweet, especially now, I'm speaking to people's gut feeling like Iggy not taking sides, but she's going to do everything in her power to make sure Onyx never is next to Kris Jenner. And you know why, and she knows why. That girl came from Australia, then no family in the middle of Miami, now she's out here in California, and her whole goal as a mom is to keep her son as far away from Kris Jenner as possible. And we all know why. We all know those sex tapes are signed for. We all know those children. Just in general, celebrity exploitation. Like when my daughter wants to rap, it's a thing where, damn, you really want to get into this game like this? And it's this balance. I had people around me. I was like, yo, this man, Carti, is calling my baby mama, rapping about skims, and then saying he needs vocals. She made a freudian slip. Needs vocals for the album. And the man was like, well, you know, that will blow her up. I said, it's my daughter. And see, that's the time when nigga hear me screaming from the other room and be like, why is he screaming?DJ Akademiks: Who said they would blow her up?Ye: Well, I purposely didn't say the names and shit. You know what I'm saying? I'm not trying to. Anybody that never spoke out against me publicly, I'm not going to speak out against them publicly.DJ Akademiks: Okay. Okay. Yeah. Okay. Did I answer that?Ye: It's just God. I'm just channeling. I'm just channeling something. So I ain't telling y'all to follow me or do not. People are not even in a position to follow me. It's like I could change hearts and minds, perception, but at the end of the day, you still got to go work for a white man. You still got to work for a Jewish man that works for a white man. The black dollar has been so decentralized since gentrification and the fall of black Wall Street that it's next to impossible for a community to get on their feet, get past the drugs, the food. The food's original drug, the hurting, the fucking 25% definite, not chance, but definitely being locked up, the abortion range. Like our position, I don't have the exact answer to the equation of how to get out of where we are, but I'm not going to say we're not in where we are. And this might be some Star Wars shit where it'd take generation after generation after generation where it'd be North and it'd be this and be that. But it's like you're either on this side of it or you're on that side. Carti took the blue pill, but he made his name off of the red pill. I, the matrix, the red pill is the niggas like Neo, the blue pill are the agents. So now Carti is an agent and you will see them. Like you see on the joint where somebody touches them and then they become the agent. Yeah, that's what happened. They come, them Jewish people come, the record people come. They'll say they literally call tight Island said, and this is coercion. That's why these niggas going to be locked up someday. They'll come to you, they said, Todd, you have to denounce yay publicly or we're going to drop your artist, Leon. We're going to cancel all your tours. So they on some mob shit. So let's die, nigga. You got what I'm saying? They're up here threatening niggas, stopping their money. This is real life shit off of a statement, off of me wearing a motherfucking chain, off of me wearing their pain. But they playing, turning up, promoting and making money off of our pain. But if I wear a piece of they pain, then they're going to threaten to destroy everything, moving everyone around, destroying people's lives. We're going to destroy Leon's life. Leon did a whole scissor album and now we're going to destroy his life. If you don't denounce this man's tweet type shit.DJ Akademiks: Do you talk to these people like before you send out a tweet? Because I would imagine he could give you a call and say, yeah, I'm in a tough spot. Like, you know, and again, I think you said something important. You're not expecting everybody around you to be dick riders and agree with you. But when they speak out against you, you feel like it's either unnecessary or that's a form of betrayal. Right?Ye: Yeah. Like Ty put up the tweet before we landed. He said, I got to say something. I said, say, I'm not racist, but yea is. We agreed upon that. When I landed, he put up, I don't condone hate speech. You letting these niggas put words in your mouth. I hundred X'd, a hundred and thirty seven X'd his career. Not, not one, not two, not 20, one hundred and thirty seven X'd it. And while I'm on a plane, you put up word by word, Jewish vernacular. My thing is we could sit and talk it out. I know they on your head, but nigga, you don't got to denounce me. Period. And if you do, you talk to me about how we're going to do it. See all these street niggas and this niggas running around with guns, got bodies. They think they, they boss. So they think I'm a motherfucking Vick or some shit. They think because I give niggas high salaries. Nigga, I'm a billionaire. Nigga, I don't give a fuck about that shit.See, this is my issue with Jim Jones, right? So he says he's going to get a jib or a div. I don't know what the fuck the word is, but basically like he going to get a percentage if he introduced me to this crypto nigga, right? And I know this shit sound like a Tarantino movie. Jim Jones wants me to meet with Mr. Pink to make $2 million off a crypto coin. Next Tarantino film, right? So then I found out before the second meeting that he was going to make this money. So...DJ Akademiks: Did he tell you?Ye: No, he said that he's going to get a percentage. He didn't tell me what it was. And he didn't say he's going to give me a piece of it either. When I found out how much money it was, I was like, you know what?DJ Akademiks: What's that? Hello? Yeah. Okay. Send him to room 59. Right on. Thank you. So when I...Ye: You found out about...DJ Akademiks: When I found out that he was getting the money, I was like, how much money is it?Ye: Yeah. I'm going to take that meeting for you to get the money. But I got to sit there. Where are you going? Like, I wasn't like, oh, nigga, you ain't telling me. I'm not going to... I still took the meeting and the nigga still got the money, right? So he got paid $2 million.DJ Akademiks: Yes.Ye: For you taking the meeting.DJ Akademiks: For me taking the meeting. But watch. And I was a bit... The money was a bit behind my back. I didn't really know about it. People be doing shit behind my back. My issue with Jim was we working on clothes. And I said, look, send me a PDF. For anybody who doesn't know, it's like a group of pictures in a folder that you send to the iPhone. You could do like 300 pictures, 10 pictures on it, 10 pages. I said, send me a PDF of all the ideas, all the young niggas you know in New York. Let me see all of this shit right now. Let the king see everything that's happening, right? This man tells me, I don't know how to make a PDF. That was way more disrespectful to me than a nigga figuring out how to get the $2 million. Do you understand why? Because this shit to my face, nigga. You gonna lie to me about a fucking PDF, you faggot ass nigga. After I sat and took the meeting for you, you took the money and I ain't even ask your broke ass for a percentage.DJ Akademiks: Maybe he didn't know how to do it.Ye: Do you think one of his young niggas knew how to do it?DJ Akademiks: Yeah, of course.Ye: Do you think that he could have figured it out after that nigga made $2 million?DJ Akademiks: Definitely.Ye: Next subject.DJ Akademiks: Definitely. What is the real thing with you and Drake? I've always been confused. It feels like I can't tell it's a love hate thing. You know, I've watched hundreds of hours of you talking about just interviews. And at a point it felt like the energy shifted and then we just start seeing it everywhere. And I can't tell. What is it? What is it?Ye: Yeah, it's like family members that you don't fuck with. Like I appreciate. One thing is Drake is a million times better than Kendrick and a million times more important. You know what I'm saying? What Future has done, thug, what Drake just culturally is. That shit last year, I couldn't even barely sit through that shit. That shit was insane, bro. That shit had Lucy and Grange, Universal, Drake Lawsuit, shit written all over it. This shit, at the end of the day, all this shit I'm saying, Jim Jones, Kendrick, all these celebrities. The funny thing is we're all in the same boat. But while we're on that boat, we're also fighting amongst each other. And as I get stronger and stronger, I get more into a position of being who I really am. But right now, or maybe I get into that position right now, but where I was yesterday, it was like, how the fuck I'm supposed to lead y'all? And you got these niggas that's running y'all, making you fuck with me. So none of y'all niggas can't fuck with me or will fuck with me. And you don't, if you fuck with my daughter, then I'm sitting down for that. So, and that's my stance on it. It's like, nigga, I make music better. I push the, niggas don't, no one make music that's nowhere near as good as music. Like when I made Moon, it basically ended Frank Oceans. He didn't have a song since then. You know, I'm sipping some wine. Like, nigga, like I knew I heard. I was like, oh, this nigga is never going to be able to make another album again. I want to go to the moon.Any genre of music that anyone has, I make a better version of it. I'm 10 times stronger at music than anyone living, but then in five territories. Okay. What do I do? Clothing, political stance, social media, expression, gravitational pull, momentum creating all that. So what do we do with that? Why do I go at the celebrities? Cause they're in the way they're making, as J. Cole said, false idol. Nigga, you're the false idol. You can't fuck with me no day. They're the false idols. They want to put people, camouflage the truth, the goal, the truth, the true God. And anybody know, all of them know what it is. All of them needs to work for me. Drake need to be my writer. Trav need to be my producer, like how I always was. But somebody, they pull them to the side. They verge with them niggas. See, the thing is, Virgil going to LVMH, the black situation don't change. Kamala, vice president, the black situation don't change. Or the world situation, period. Obama president, the world situation don't change. Steve Jobs, Elon Musk, yay, Disney, Howard Hughes. Howard Hughes changed flight. You know what I'm saying? And if you watch the aviator, him as a white man, him because he's a maverick, they fuck with him. They fuck with him. At the end of the day, y'all fucking with me. But I'm here to just tell y'all that y'all can't fuck with me. That's the whole idea.DJ Akademiks: Why say fuck Virgil after he passed? I think a lot of people feel like, you know, he's not here to defend himself. And that, I think people are just confused by that. We get the story of how you guys kind of separated and how you feel, how you feel. But, you know, they always say sometimes, you know, when someone passes away, you know, it can't be for the dead man, you know? It feels like you still have a little bit of animosity there.Ye: I'm evil.DJ Akademiks: You don't think about like his family and people, other people that love him?Ye: I am an evil person.DJ Akademiks: You don't think that.Ye: I feel like you've always represented God fearing ideals though.DJ Akademiks: Yeah.Ye: So how does that, how could you identify a person?DJ Akademiks: God has the wrath.Ye: You only play with God for so long. Niggas is out here playing games. Don C and him starting RSVP behind my back. This nigga taking money, like kind of the Jim Jones situation. Oh, yeah, you're going to come to the club. I was Louis Vuitton. They take that position. They put them in that position. They built the anti Kanye Kanye club at Nike. Everybody worked for me. Everybody worked for me. And what best put it in perspective is Virgil is the Jesus of the niggas that worked for me, right? Because every nigga that worked for me would have rather been me. Why do I have problems with almost every celebrity? Because they're jealous. And they should be because I'm better than them. Because I'm more anointed and I'm appointed. And I understand the jealousy and the hearts of men. But they had to understand the wrath of the king also.All these pussy faggot niggas could shut the fuck up. Don C pussy ass. Supposed to be the realest nigga alive. You know what I'm saying? I remember him sitting with me and saying, brah, brah, what's up with this red hat, brah? What's up with this red hat? They told me, who's they nigga? They told me that, you know, if you don't stop wearing a hat, man, they're gonna give it. And they named a rapper right here. I love this rapper. So I don't even want to like put him in this conversation. But it was like a they, you know, the invisible hand, the people, you know, damn well, that Super Bowl, that Kendra Super Bowl and that Grammy Super Bowl had invisible hands on it.DJ Akademiks: Yeah.Ye: Like everyone culturally fucking knows that. They they fucking know that. So watch. Don C tells the nigga a side. The nigga a side. I was talking about the other day with the scoliosis. Right. First of all, like I said, I make it clear. This ain't gonna come up to me. Talk about how my teeth don't look good. I was like, nigga, you telling me about something that look good. And of course, he's your main friend. And it bothered me when when a side, because it bothered me every day after you said that, like, yo, how do I let this nigga, you know how nigga say some shit to you? And like 10 minutes later, you're like, yo, how?DJ Akademiks: Yeah.Ye: How do I even let this shit happen? Yeah. Right. So but a side did give me a bar. He said, Don C once told me, and this is towards the end of conversation. The last time I ever spoke to him, he said, man, and Don C was working for me at this time, man, I'm glad you didn't get the Nike deal. And when I didn't get the night, it was heartbreaking. Oh, man, because I had the fucking Yeezys. I was on a second Yeezy. And I just, man, I'm like, we got to make the biggest about make Yeezy at Nike about to tear people's heads. You know what I'm saying? I'm a nigga from Chicago. I got the hottest shoe. I'm at Nike. It wasn't no J. Cole, Kendrick, Trav, Drake, Virgil. I was all of them in one right before they started putting all these battery packs, Lucien battery packs, LVMH battery packs by each one to distract from the true leader and shit. So Don C then says to A-side, I'm glad Yee didn't get the deal because it wouldn't have gave no one else a chance. Well, who's the one? Four people that worked for me. So that means all four people that worked for me was going into the meetings with me, working on designs for me, then shaking hands of people behind my back. They wasn't really with the king. Faggot ass Virgil. Faggot ass Don C. Faggot ass Matt Williams. And faggot ass Jerry Lorenzo. Four faggots.DJ Akademiks: Hmm. Hmm. Interesting. I mean.Ye: Also, you got to run this shit straight.DJ Akademiks: Yeah.Ye: You can't chop it up. You can chop it. You can do whatever. It's like they chopped up the Bible. The world, the word still came through. Imagine you try to chop the word faggot at his interview. It would be like three sentences.DJ Akademiks: Well, you know, as we told about censorship and even you using that, I still say the F word just like you've been throwing it around like you don't give a damn. What do you how do you feel about like people like, you know, speech, speech is censored a lot. What we can say, it feels like you're trying to take off those shackles. And it's like you said woke is dead.Ye: Yeah. Sorry. I was supposed to leave 18 minutes ago.DJ Akademiks: Oh, so you're going to Japan for real, for real. Don't drop the location. What's out there? I know you'd want me to come to China. I was just like it feels so far away. And culture like culture that what are you seeing? You just tell me what's on that side of the world. I've never been.Ye: Hold on a second. Somebody was talking about this car. He said, yo, Carti wants to sit down. Let's connect, gang. I said, who's this? Lou. I'm with Carti's camp. Give me a call. I said, who gave you my contact? Answer that question first. Cash. Tap in. Black man. These industries are extraordinary. Black on black violence. Information is key. These niggas are setting you up.DJ Akademiks: Yeah. I could definitely see that. But perfect setup. You mentioned my daughter. So now I get to end the movie. And I'm going to end the movie with somebody for sure.DJ Akademiks: Do you think he did that purposely? Or do you think he just thought it was kind of trendy because Kim acknowledges? Again, you know, there are some people feel like it's just random coincidences. And it looks like you're like, no, you're doing that to fuck with me.Ye: Because you left me off the album. And if you my dog, well, one of my actual friends or someone that could call my daughter, their niece will reach out to a woman that I got issues with, obviously. That's some faggot shit. I ain't no street nigga. I'm the pink polo pussy faggot and shit. But I know that that is not street code. I know that part. Like, is that okay? That part of it. Before we even get to me being mad.DJ Akademiks: No, no, I get it. It's like an ex. Like, why are you hitting on my ex? You know what I mean? Like, if you're my man and I don't fuck with my ex or I don't fuck with my baby mom, why are you even acknowledging her?Ye: And you're fucking reposting my baby mom. And not even reposting me. You was the first feature on Donda. It's like the Carti shit is like the final heartbreak. I ain't gonna fuck about this black man. How do you niggas run up? Nigga, come kill me then, nigga. Come kill me because the motherfucking coward dies a thousand deaths. And it's the final heartbreak. Niggas using you. You know what I'm saying? It's like this.DJ Akademiks: Did you switch on the album? Like, it seems like it felt like you were going to be like you guys worked on. Did you work on music?Ye: Yes. The day I did Will's Fall Off, that's when the nigga Carti got the song with Thug and Ty and shit. We was in the studio. We was working on, he sent me the song. We was talking about doing a mixtape. And then this gentleman named Peter told me like on Wednesday or Thursday, whatever it was, it was like, oh, this Carti album is going up Friday. I said, I called him right away. I said, bro, where's our song?DJ Akademiks: But on that note, it feels like on Carti album, like he's doing everybody a favor, though, too. He didn't need to have all them fucking features. It felt like, oh, he hot right now. And he had to do Uzi a favor, or this a favor, that favor, and it's just like, and this level, obviously the album could be better.Ye: At this level, it's a different level of experience that's needed to handle 30 songs, to understand how to be running those producers. Like, Carti is a genius in his own right. It's another thing to run that Donda Stadium. And it's just what they call it, what are they, ambitious. Like, that amount of songs is really ambitious. And a big thing is like, how do you do that without me just as your producer of mine, whether I was on it or not? It's like, y'all keep on wanting to do like the last Kendrick album, not that, but the previous one is like a direct copy of, yeah, of fucking Pablo. I'll show you, it's like, oh, these are the drums from this song. This is the approach to this song. This is, because I'll be in here like just inventing new approaches to a song and shit. Oh, we're going to drop the drums like this on Blood and Leaves. I'm going to make the ending of Runaway last as long. And, you know, I'm the type I will share anything and everything with whoever. I would do collaborations, or I did. And it's just too much where as soon as the shit get hot, no one is like, yo, nah. This nigga, you know what I mean?DJ Akademiks: You think they take the sauce and run off of it, then forget about it.Ye: Forget about it. And then they go against me for like political shit. You know how many fucking rappers and celebrities went against me for the Trump shit? Then I understand what the Jewish shit, but you know, I wasn't lying on that shit. And out of Carti shit, it was the perfect combination of me not having a name and likeness, and me finding out about that shit, to me being left out the album, also the faggot ass Trav shit, to him.DJ Akademiks: What do you mean? Call it. What do you say? What do you mean Trav shit?Ye: Trav left me off his album. Took four of my songs from the ranch in Wyoming. My choruses, my exact singing lines replaced me with him, or what other people put future scissor on the joints. Took me off. I felt, with no explanation, shit just comes out.DJ Akademiks: So what are these conversations like? You guys aren't talking like, why are you doing this? Because we see the frustration, but what are they telling you? Are they apologizing?Ye: They're not telling, but we know why they're doing it. We know why. You know why. I know why.DJ Akademiks: Hmm. Hmm. Hmm. Okay, I gotta leave. I have to leave. We could double back on it. We could definitely double back.Ye: Yeah.DJ Akademiks: One of the last real questions. All right. What changed in between, and obviously you're bringing back Sunday Service now, but there was a time...Ye: Oh, the nigga from Sunday Service tried to hit me for two million, Jason White, to run it. It's like, it's always a scam and it's Hollywood shit, but keep going though.DJ Akademiks: But you used to be on, like even certain language you felt just wasn't appropriate. You say you don't want to get into secular music. I mean, I think even that track with Three Stacks where, you know, I think he wanted to curse or something like that. You're like, no, we want, we got to keep it clean. Now when people are seeing how you're speaking, they're like, what happened to that yay? Like, how do you get from there to here? What changes or what do you then realize?Ye: I'm evil. This is the real power of God. No white people, no black people, nobody could tell me what to say, think, talk, or who the fuck to be, and I'm happy everybody's so interested in me being me. I'm so happy that just me doing exactly what the fuck I want to do and saying exactly how the fuck I feel or what I say is so interesting to people.DJ Akademiks: Did you ever apologize for anything or like, not necessarily regret, but like, see things you've done or seeing people you've offended in the past and be like,Ye: Yeah, man, God hurts too. It hurt me that I had to hurt Jay. It hurt me. It hurt me. The Carti shit, it hurts me. This shit, all this shit, I experienced pain. People be thinking, oh, is he suicide? No.DJ Akademiks: Well, you tweeted about that.Ye: Yeah.DJ Akademiks: We're all worried, you know?Ye: Yeah. I think you're the only one that can do what you do, but primarily because no matter, even if you say some shit that people really don't like, they love you. And you're probably the only hip hop artist or only artist, period, that you're so ingrained in us that we'll never. And that's why, like, you know, I don't think cancellation could ever work with you. Because it's like, no matter what, you're always going to make a smile at a point. Because when you start talking and you mentioned suicidal thoughts, what's happening? We say that, but then people don't see what's happening. Look at the Chicago photo. Then look at the work that I put in a Carti. Then look at me sitting and telling North, like, you got it. We're not going on this Carti album. I know it's the number one. Your friends are like, oh, you're going to be in this Carti. I know it's very exciting. Like for a kid like that, that has everything to be on a Carti song is that. And North is like, yo, you got a problem with Carti. I got a problem with Carti.DJ Akademiks: Hmm. So you're standing toes behind you.Ye: Yeah. Yeah, absolutely. And that's what all these faggot ass raps need to understand. Don't get this Disney shit and this Hulu shit fucked up. I'm her daddy. And I deal with pain and I administer pain also. Yeah, me. Pink polo faggot. I administer pain mentally. Because none of these niggas is psycho or as smart as me. At least not the niggas. I can't say for the tech dudes. Okay, that's some other shit. But artists be dumb, bro. It's like they can't even fucking count, bro. Jewish people run their whole shit. The lawyers run their whole shit. Our whole shit. Like the contracts are set up for us to not read it. You know what I'm saying? Like, nigga can't. Okay, go out and start to run a whole record label without a Jewish person. And I'll take back what I had to say. You know, start up your whole TV network and shit. Make it run. But no Jewish investors. Let me see how that works. You know what I'm saying? Until motherfuckers can really get their shit together like they Nigerians or like they Chinese or like they're Jewish or like they're the tech Indians or some shit, everything I'm saying counts. And the way as far as the way I feel or what I'm stressing, I'm saying people want to fuck with me. I'm telling them they can't fuck with me. And anybody that ever went against me.And it's the other shit. I don't really have a problem with Kendrick. I would never call Kendrick a faggot. You know what I'm saying? I don't like what happened with the song and that whole idea. I don't like how they used Kendrick. That's right. And also, I don't like him saying he the number one because I'm the number one. So those are my two things.DJ Akademiks: People think that's jealousy. They feel like you're even when you criticize the Super Bowl performance or you're like, man, I didn't like him on Carti's album. He got too many verses. Like, yeah, he could rap, but we didn't want to hear this shit.Ye: Y'all don't go to church. God is an angry God. God is a jealous God. What are you talking about? I'm the closest thing to God on earth. And I act just like how God acts. Like I go up where people, whatever interview you did previous to the interview of this interview. I guarantee you it's going to be more of a blessing than the previous interview. So what does God do? Bless. God has used me to bless. John Legend. Boom. Amber Rose. Kim. Travis. Carti. You know what I'm saying? So whatever is here, the blessings run through me. But in that same way, I'm angry. I'm jealous. And now I can say all these people were the family that I never had. But North is my actual family. So give me give me one reason, please, because before it's all jealousy is this and that. And now it's this far. So yes, I was jealous that Kendrick is on Carti album. And I feel like that's two different genres. It seemed like J Cole and Kendrick would be more like, you know, I like mixing genres and shit. But yeah, I'm jealous. Yeah, I'm hearing this shit for the first time. Yeah, I'm not on it. Yeah, this man rapping about skims. It's like that's what man. What about all this shit? I said I don't fuck with rappers. I don't fuck with celebrities. And then I and then I do to Jay Z tweet and people be surprised. I told you niggas I don't fuck with niggas. You niggas just don't be believing me.DJ Akademiks: I know you got to go. Music. Next down the album. Bully. Like, I think there's still this. There's still there's a lot of people who they're like, yo, listen, man, you're just going off on Twitter, but we just want the music. We want the music, you know, what's that creative process even at this point? Because there's a whole nother we should have started right there. There's a whole thing.Ye: Creative process. 47 years and multiple lifetimes of creative process to make the, you know, the top living, you know, influencer. It was crazy when you say, yo, I've been in this shit 30 years. Carter, you're a child. And it was like, this motherfucker really been in this shit 30 years. You know what I mean? Like that is that is that's crazy.Yeah. This is what I'm saying with the Carti thing in relationship to music and what you're saying. When I was 14 years old, I was cutting hair. It was a nigga that ran a shop older gentleman. I came up there. I'm cutting hair. One day I cut like five people's haircuts and shit. I probably made. I don't know. Maybe I had a hundred dollars in my pocket. And then I like he's getting running across the street, my hunting feeling so good about myself. And the dude ran out the shop. He said, hey, come back here. Come back here. He said, show me how much money you made. I showed up. He took half that shit. So I'm saying niggas be using my shop and then running off with the hundred dollars. And then what they gonna run over the hundred dollars and show back over my daughter while they at it and shit. No, I gotta go to the back at that point. Niggas know damn well. It just became a thing where it's like, this is what we gonna do. We're gonna use Jay for this. I'm like, no, nigga. Fuck. Fuck all these niggas. It's because Virgil made it look like that's what you supposed to do. Niggas used to call me like, yo, you're a platform. I ain't a platform. These niggas not better than me. These niggas, a nigga has yet to make a better product. Take a, take the Louis Vuitton Don's and take every Virgil sneaker. And you can have a choice. Every single Virgil sneaker ever made versus the first sneaker I ever made. You get what I'm saying? So take everybody out. Take graduation. All right. And then take, take dark fantasy. Take watch the throne. Take Donda. Take, you got what I'm saying? You could just go, one no rap album is better than Vultures one last year. Let's go song for song for song. And that's, it only got half of me on it.DJ Akademiks: You did, you did that in cancellation. Like how, like how hard is it to, if they're saying DSPs are saying, well, we're not distributing that or not DSPs. I mean, um, um, distributors, they're saying, we're not distributing that. I don't know if you get flag from the DSPs who have to, you know, then put it up on their streaming services, but like the, it feels like the, it feels like the things in between getting your product to people, those, it, it, for Vultures, especially, there was a lot of people running out of the way. You still got it up, right? Still got nominated for a Grammy, which by the way, the, the, it's like, again, I know you got to, it just brings up like 15 different, more artists. Like how could, how could I not?Ye: You got to come to Japan, bro.DJ Akademiks: I got it. I really got to make this, uh, I'm serious. Like y'all should come out there.Ye: I know.DJ Akademiks: All right.Ye: Yeah. I appreciate you, brother.DJ Akademiks: Thank you. Thank you. I appreciate it. Were you going out to airports?Ye: What were you thinking the whole time? He's like, man, that needs more security. No security could like fucking stop those interviews. Yeah, I'm headed to the airport.DJ Akademiks: He went out of a thing, right?Ye: There's, there's, how much, how much do I got of that?DJ Akademiks: Oh, no, no. Everything is, everything is there. It's 64 minutes. That's what somebody told me. I was, I was shocked. Why don't you move around with security, man?Ye: I have security, but it.DJ Akademiks: Like you're like, you're, you know, I thought, but I always heard that you never did that.Ye: Well, I thought that I will come in here.DJ Akademiks: You have 15 assistant, 15 staffers. You have all the type of shit going on. You get what I'm saying?Ye: Yeah.DJ Akademiks: As opposed to.Ye: Well, people, millionaires usually just have a, it's a lot of fluff, right? And it's just like, you just have people just to wait around. That's nice with the magnet. Yeah. Like they usually have just people to wait around on them. And, you know, it kind of creates like almost like a bureaucracy where it's like, hey, if you want to get to the guy, you get to this guy who then talks to this guy. And this girl and this person, then you get to them to make a decision. You get what I'm saying?DJ Akademiks: Yeah. The, uh, yeah. And that's, and that's when you interview me too, because the person starts getting feel like they got too much power and shit. They're like, I had an assistant. I knew she thought she made when she started saying copy.Ye: Well, I mean, if you let her, if you let her ask you for $3 million, like you should have said, you bugging the fuck out. Like, you said, I knew she was crazy when she said copy. I mean, that's that, that's that person in the middle type of conversation. And they got the power. It's like, they can't help it. Like they can't help themselves. And it's like, I can talk to them. I'm really big. Like I got people right now that come in working on music and then they want to like start working on clothes and shit. I'm just like, you don't know shit about clothes. And people, people try to put themselves in the middle of everything and get left out of it.DJ Akademiks: Grab this and grab the, uh, the suitcase.Ye: Okay. Perfect. The thing I thought is like. The only thing I thought is like, people would be like, oh, we hate puffs so much, you know, but I'm leaving out, where'd you guys, we were preparing for the, you leave, and you missed it, I have my black KKK leather outfit on it, you, you wearing it?DJ Akademiks: Yeah, he just apologetically himself, man, you gotta be a billionaire to start moving like how you move, right?Ye: No, no, it's like, I think, I think you don't give a fuck about what no one else is thinking about their impressions on you, you're just living your truth, you get what I'm saying? This is Vanessa, we did a runaway together, self-service, like all that kind of thing. She did, that's really where Skims came from.DJ Akademiks: Really?Ye: That's where I'm called Sound.DJ Akademiks: Yeah. Oh. The reason why I said that, because I'm like.Ye: Would you like one of these to go?DJ Akademiks: No, I'll take one. Yeah, I'm serious. I'm serious. Hey, you, you, you, you know what, uh, um.Unknown: What do you want to do? Follow me or?Ye: To Japan? Okay. I don't know, I'm just, I'm, I'm leaving because this guy, obviously, like, that's fine, and all these, I just thought, I just feel like, in that time I'm, uh, particularly afraid of, uh, threats or afraid to die, it's just like, I don't know, it's just kinda like, I don't know, it's just kinda like, it's like, you know, it, I don't wanna say it.Unknown: Yeah, I'm sorry. DJ Akademiks: You're like, you, you, you, like, flying private there?Ye: You know what's worse than a death threat? A hospital threat. That's a real thing.DJ Akademiks: Yeah.Ye: A hospital threat's way worse. DJ Akademiks: I almost feel like at some point they're gonna try to, like, like, do the Wendy Williams to you, or they're like, yo, listen, like, we take his phone, he can't communicate. He's making sign languages outside the window.DJ Akademiks: Yeah, what? For fucking talking? For talking? You guys ain't gonna put me in the hospital.DJ Akademiks: It's called conservatorship.Ye: For talking. No. Conservatorship, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And, yeah, and take over your money. No. For talking. What? It almost happened before.DJ Akademiks: Yeah. It almost happened before. Well, didn't it? Well, you got hospitalized.Ye: Can we talk on the phone? Can I have you go? Unknown: We do what you need, okay?Ye: Okay.Unknown: We can come with you.Ye: To, to Japan?Unknown: To Japan? Yes.Ye: Okay. should, should, we should figure out how to shoot boy. Like, start shooting. Tell me everything you need, we do it.DJ Akademiks: Yeah, because Gabe has a good idea for that. Riko, you could have, oh, Riko.Ye: Come in. Hold on. Riko, no, you can, Riko, you can bring it on the next one. All right. Hop in. Yeah. You got it? Do it. That way you could, you could keep recording.DJ Akademiks: Yeah. Okay.Ye: I wanted to say this about why do I, like, why do I talk so much in these interviews? Why do I express myself so much on, um, damn, I gave my KKK off. It's fine. No, I get it off.DJ Akademiks: Oh, you just gave it away?Ye: No, they, they work with me.DJ Akademiks: Oh, okay, good, good.Ye: But it's okay. You know, 50 say, I let, I let my monster talk from a chain.DJ Akademiks: Yeah.Ye: All going by, what up, homie? It's, um, uh, your voice is everything. You know, if you got, if you have money. Yeah, look at this, this is her car, by the way.DJ Akademiks: Really?Ye: Yeah.DJ Akademiks: It's like some old school vintage joint.Ye: Yeah. If you have money, you're trying to, um, you might buy a car or a watch, a house. So when somebody comes to your house, no, you black, white, uh, Muslim, whatever. You're going to see the car. You're going to see the house. It's just the nature of man to do that. But what happens when you had billions, then lost it, then got it back. You lost your families, lost it, lost say-so over your, your kid's name and likeness, all that. Then what do you have left at that point? You got your, um, this voice, like, you know, my voice got distracted, but I want to say, this thing, whether I'm shadow banned or not, to have this idea that somebody's hearing it, five people are hearing it.DJ Akademiks: You talk to Elon?Ye: Like, because I feel like Elon is like, yo, listen, I might got to put some labels on it. I'm not going to kick you off of there. Um, I got kicked off for just posting one thing last time, like three years ago.DJ Akademiks: Yeah.Ye: So now that I've been able to do it, it's like somebody getting used to money. Like you think it's like, what y'all got is like five weeks straight. Hey, yes, man. Five weeks straight of Beyonce had the best video. Think about that moment. And I picture that not let up. It's like having money. Like me, it's like having money for real. It's like freedom to talk. You know what I mean? Cause they'll be like you. Okay. That's enough. Your, your Grammy award speech is up. Uh, don't say that. Uh, you said that. You got to answer. Now you're experiencing someone who just say everything they want to say. And a lot of people can hear it. And I won't give that up for my life. I give up my life before I gave that up. And then what makes it so funny. It's like the Jay-Z tweet. Uh, Jay-Z kids tweet makes the Nazi shit. That even seems so bad. Every week.DJ Akademiks: Yeah. I feel like people feel like that was like probably the worst tweet you've said.Ye: Or the best. Or the strongest.DJ Akademiks: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. All right. One more. I'll be saying all kind of like.Ye: Hit me anytime.DJ Akademiks: Victorian shit all the time. Right? Like exile.Ye: Oh yeah. Yeah. That was epic, man. That was epic.DJ Akademiks: All right. Be safe, man. I mean, yo, I thought I was gonna run out of space. I thought I was gonna run out of space. I thought I was gonna run out of space. And, look. Get the car. There he goes. Yeah, he's out of here. That was some epic shit, bro. That's amazing. Yo, I probably asked three questions.Ye: No, no, no.DJ Akademiks: Probably like four to five.Ye: Four to five. I give him credit. He let us keep rolling. Whole time.DJ Akademiks: Whole time. Keep rolling. Whole time. Keep rolling. How much? How long?Ye: 73 minutes right now.DJ Akademiks: 73. You know what's crazy? When I looked at it, it said it only had 50 minutes. So I was thinking 50 minutes is gonna run out. Like how is it still recorded? I don't know.Ye: Yeah. I don't know.DJ Akademiks: All right. Well, listen, man. That was, I won't necessarily say interview. That was a Kanye West experience. There seems to be a sport. Even when we were fantastic people...Ye: It's gonna have fun poppy. No nochmal. All right, nice. There he is. There he is. Dude... Dude. Pretty cool,etti. I'd been there. Before after. I didn't want to go fast for people. Thought that wasmt. That was guaranteed.*There may be errors on this page.