00:01 Drink Champs: HoYo, Outside, Uno, that's me KILLA, oh. What it could be hopefully this winner should be this is your boy N.O.R.E. What up? It's DJ EFN. This is drink champs yappy hour make some noise. When me and EFN started this show we always looked at rappers or we always looked at certain people as superheroes or supermen. This guy standing to the left of me is not only a superhero, a superman, a super genius, a super music icon. But he's also a fashion icon. He's also a visionary. He's also a person who speaks things into existence. I remember he said you don't know how sway and we figured out he didn't know how sway. In case you don't know who we talk about because we talk about this is this gonna be drink champs biggest episode ever. I'm just go ahead and say that sorry to anybody else who's ever been on this table in this place. This is gonna be the biggest in case you don't know what the fuck we talking about. We talking about the artist formerly known as Kanye and he's just now. Yeah, god damn it. So let me get this right you ain't got a last name or a first name just got a name?
02:32 Kanye West: Right.
02:33 Drink Champs: I don't even know what to say. That shit is hard, just yeah.
02:37 Drink Champs: Yo, yo, yeah, I thank you so much man because on the real to real I know you don't have to do this. You're at a level in your life where it seems like you're free. It seems like you just feel like you're free. You're doing you really showed up with no security and I had to get security for you. I'm sorry.
02:57 Kanye West: I just said no.
02:59 Drink Champs: I just can't let you walk around like that because we're gonna kill somebody somebody fuck with you. I'm just throwing it out there. I'm just throwing it out there. So I'm so sorry we left that we left that um life, but how is it like how is it like what's what's going on in your life? It's just you? Cuz I heard you told me on the phone the other day you said you don't even you're not even you don't even have a house. That's how rich you are. You don't even have a house. How is that?
03:28 Kanye West: Yeah, you know our restore houses. I'm very into architecture, but I'm just I'm not into the the class system where it's like what that's one of the main things they use to control us. I think my whole existence is about not being out of control but being out of their control being in control yourself. So house is the first thing that they give you that your entire existence. I look out at the skyscrapers in New York. I'm like everybody that's in all those buildings spending that time away from their family working, one of the main thing the main thing is the idea of a house security. Yeah, security because I remember saying, uh, saying I was arguing with this one publicist and I told the person now I wasn't gonna have a house and they spazz on me said you've done too much in your life to not have a house. You need a half like so try to impose that idea of but you know my home is just when when my daughter facetimes me. That's where my that's where my home is. That's where my home is.
04:28 Drink Champs: But you got land. I'm assuming you have land though, you believe that you have no land. You got 20, 200 acres somewhere some others.
04:32 Kanye West: Right, right, yeah, and you were staying in mercedes 12,000 but yeah.
04:37 Drink Champs: Okay, but you were staying in the mercedes-benz arena what was you doing?
04:41 Kanye West: Yeah, that was wild.
04:42 Drink Champs: It didn't look like a cell. It looked like a jail cell. I'm gonna throw it out there.
04:45 Kanye West: Yeah, well except for I could come and go so that's a big difference there.
04:51 Drink Champs: That's the difference.
04:52 Kanye West: Yeah, but yeah, you know, it's this idea this monk lifestyle like that. I heard that it's like trust fund kids that's kind of on the same wave right now that they being homeless on purpose. Uh, but I travelled to um to paris like a couple weeks ago and I had to go through lisbon because you can go through lisbon without being vaccinated. I only got one of the shots. I'm half-cenated. So I come to I dropped in lisbon it's a 15-hour ride and usually people say well I had to I got to take this 15-hour ride something steven spielberg had told me at this ralph I'm just have it's gonna be shameless name. It's gonna be like a lot of name.
05:34 Drink Champs: Okay, I love it. I love it. Let's go.
05:37 Kanye West: I love it.
05:37 Drink Champs: I love it. Go ahead continue.
05:38 Kanye West: So I'm sitting next to oprah at this ralph loren dinner talking to steven spielberg across from hillary clinton. This is the first time I actually was with her. So the um, and so I took this 15-hour ride from lisbon to paris, but the thought was I get to take the ride the ride was beautiful. So it's just a perspective on life. Like when I go through just the different changes in my life my family, a friend of mine said are you sad? And when I really thought about it I started to look at life like it was a video game. I'm like, you know every part of it is really lit. The things that hurt you the things that you're happy about the things that uh that push your ego that that support your ego the things that that down your ego like I've been saying this like a couple uh for a couple weeks like ego and anger love to hang out they're best friends. Oh, absolutely. Ego and anger. Oh, yeah, you know that they hype each other up. Yeah, yeah, definitely. Yeah, they definitely they definitely blood. The more and more, you know, you lean into your ego, you know I wrote this song that for Donda that you know, we're gonna bring out on a bonus album that's saying on the deluxe, but it said if I let go if I let go let god and let go. I gotta let it go. I gotta let's go and it's why he's got this line it makes you think about miami. It's it fly into the mondreandrion. Actually, it had a next line, but I like to open it. But it's like going to paris. I get there and um I get to the ritz hotel and they say they ain't got no rooms and you know, there's a couple times. I just had to like pull my mask down like you don't have no room and I put it okay, let me look for a room.
07:40 Drink Champs: That's a different kind of currency.
07:42 Kanye West: Yeah, the the vision of life is not to have money and possessions is to have relationships and make it to the point where i've done so much for so many people that my money is can't spend anywhere and go to a restaurant they'd be like yo your money's no good here. So they started charging for the room.
08:01 Drink Champs: But they gave you a room.
08:04 Kanye West: They found a room and then the next day the ceo of balenciaga came to pick me up. Is this guy named cedric that actually I was trying to hire as a ceo my boy jean. Two-toed ahead of apc, which is basically like the french version of gap, which is the first person to really that was in a prestigious position to really let me do a collaboration. Uh with them and so we had this apc collection that sold out back in the day.
08:29 Drink Champs: This is before the louis collab. Yeah.
08:32 Kanye West: You know what the louis collab was first. That's right. Yeah, thank you. Thank you. Um, i'm a fan. Yeah, the louis collab was great. All right, so I want to I want to go back to certain things with the louis thing. Okay, but so the ceo of balenciaga picked me up now. I came with all I got is just like little bag that's like my house and my house changes in size depending on how big my bag is. Like I had this one that was like a laminate size and that once I got the apple headphones they wouldn't fit in it. So I had to get a bigger house which ended up being this one right and i'm so happy that thugs wear this uh, this bag now. Yeah, so people could stop down and meet.
09:23 Kanye West: So, um, so I ride uh to the balenciaga store with the ceo of balenciaga and I didn't have a change of underwear, but for what you know, i've done with balenciaga especially over the past four months guess what my underwear and socks ended up being for the next four days in paris. Balenciaga underwear for free and that's when I was sitting there. I was like yo, this is my vision on life tonight even have to have a house to have a place in every single world every single city, every single country that I could go to somebody's like you could stay here you can sleep here. Like, uh, my my dog boo. I was like, man. Yeah, you in my city. Yeah, okay, he was like you in my city and the first one I saw I was like, nigga. I was born in atlanta. I was like I humble myself say yes, sir. Put a bunch of eyes. Put a bunch of eyes. And um, he's like, yo, you know, i'm now here working on casey. I'm in houston, but you could stay at my crib. And to I know I got a bunch of cribs. I could stay at in new york. I know I got a bunch of cribs I could stay at and you just move around like first it was like yasin think about most stuff. He changed the name of yasin and he started moving around. So I would think about how he was moving around, you know, just going through the airport sometimes standing in line sometimes not standing in line getting a uh, uber uber be canceling on me. I'm not gonna say uber's trash now I'm just saying.
10:47 Drink Champs: You told me that the other day you said you said you'd be calling uber's and uber's be canceling on you.
10:54 Kanye West: Cancel on you your profile doesn't say Ye on it. I'm really i really am canceling I guess.
11:01 Drink Champs: But did your profile have 4.9 stars on your profile.
11:06 Kanye West: Do you yeah, I don't even know my i barely you know I barely know how to work, you know, I just got my apple pay, you know, just mad you just got apple pay.
11:14 Drink Champs: Let's make some noise.
11:18 Kanye West: Because you really are a superhero. I got apple pay but now it's time to make apple pay.
11:23 Drink Champs: Go ahead. Oh, that was hard. That was hard. I'm still on that ball. I'm still on that ball. Okay, so have you watched versus yes, yeah, you know, I'm going with it. Yeah.
11:36 Kanye West: Yeah.
11:38 Drink Champs: Would you step into that ring?
11:42 Kanye West: Oh, absolutely but I would need about like four people that to go against me at one time. I need I need producers. I need people who make good albums. I need people who made radio hits. I need every single gemini specifically MC. I need every.
12:00 Drink Champs: Okay, okay, oh the rapper, oh the rapper, top five especially gemini would you like would you like some hennessy?
12:07 Kanye West: Or would you like would you like a glass? Well, you know, let me explain what hennessy is doing to the community. Okay.
12:13 Drink Champs: Okay, so you know what the people are going to say people are going to say they want Ye against who you think the people would think they want to see you against?
12:26 Kanye West: Uh, there's only two people really out there.
12:29 Drink Champs: No, I think it'd be it'd be Drake, right?
12:33 Kanye West: Thank you.
12:35 Drink Champs: And home that's yeah, that's good. Oh, I didn't think about that one.
12:40 Kanye West: I didn't think about that.
12:42 Drink Champs: Oh, that's your nephew right there. He watch you.
12:44 Kanye West: Yeah, no, I like that. I like that you would go against jay.
12:52 Kanye West: Nah, because that's my boss. I would never go against you.
12:54 Drink Champs: I like that answer, but what you saying when you and drake together, who's winning that?
13:00 Kanye West: I'm winning every situation. That's why I'm winning every time.
13:16 Drink Champs: And who producer wise though would it be dre?
13:22 Kanye West: Oh producer wise. That's why I said it got a bit I need to have like a month long just different categories different styles you have a season of your own verses.
13:32 Drink Champs: Yeah.
13:32 Kanye West: That'd be new at a certain point I could just be versing myself it could be this album against that album. I had to go dark fantasy against.
13:42 Drink Champs: Well, I don't think anything goes against dark fantasy, but.
13:46 Kanye West: college dropout against.
13:48 Drink Champs: The old yeah against the new yeah.
13:50 Kanye West: Oh, yeah, we could do that. We could do all like sample drums versus trap drums. We could do all bars versus auto-tune.
13:56 Drink Champs: The different name changes going against each other.
13:57 Kanye West: Yeah, different eras of.
14:00 Drink Champs: Yes, holy moly guacamole this is exciting.
14:03 Kanye West: But you telling me I just I just want to support the fans. It's not for me. Yeah.
14:08 Drink Champs: If swiss come you because it's not about money with you. I could tell it's not about money with you with swiss Timberland say you and drake against one another you saying you're gonna take it and you're gonna smoke it.
14:17 Kanye West: Yeah, absolutely.
14:18 Drink Champs: Okay, that's all I need to be clear.
14:23 Kanye West: But it already happened he played one of my leaked songs and it was better than every other song this year.
14:28 Drink Champs: Because you did leak drake's address, correct?
14:31 Kanye West: No, he advertised it when he was building the house. Everyone knows it's like a place in canada you go by it's like it's a monument.
14:39 Drink Champs: Right.
14:40 Kanye West: Yeah.
14:42 Drink Champs: We didn't know that because you know, we're little people over here.
14:44 Kanye West: Yeah, no, you can find it. That's how I was able to find it. It's googleable. It's on google maps.
14:49 Drink Champs: I like it. That's my word. You know, I made up that word.
14:51 Kanye West: Googleable.
14:52 Drink Champs: Googleable. What I will say I understand that you know.
14:59 Kanye West: In in all of the the back and forth that me and drake have had, you know, it's like the light life is like the nba. Yeah, and people are either on your team or they're on another team and everybody plays games in different kind of ways and you can't be mad for somebody when at the end of the day, this man is so more records than anybody and part of his technique and basketball people got different techniques like I went to to the gym with kobe and we didn't even really get to play ball. All he did was show me videos of scotty pippen and if you know scotty pippen's got a wide wingspan, but he didn't talk about that. He talked about how fast he was moving his feet and he was like, oh, this is inhuman. Right, just inhumane. This is like and he was studying that he wanted to learn how fast he moved his feet. So when drake drake don't do a dislike outright this song where it's a headshot. He's gonna set a set it up like war. You know what I'm saying?
16:03 Drink Champs: Yeah.
16:03 Kanye West: When people went to go get hitler. They didn't go straight for hitler. They set up fake tanks. They said this and it. So he gonna do stuff like live five blocks down the street from you do dm every.
16:15 Drink Champs: What did he say? He said crept through the light switch.
16:17 Kanye West: Is that what you're talking about? He gonna like go and you know dm every single girl in your family every single girl around your family everybody all your niggas girl. He's gonna so it becomes like so you already get that it's like away games and home games and stuff like it's football and this is professional rap. Well, this is the first time we in a place of like professional rap. So all that's there. So if he throws out a bar right here, it might be a bar only like what what pox that you and I know what's going on. Right, but it's all psychological, right? So it's like what pin what button is someone gonna hit? Where can you hit them? It's like I was just at the game with j prince last night and it was talking about how how many below the belts there were how many this there was and the whole thing about on that record that yeah, you know what you know this? I got the perfect. I never thought about this tonight. Okay, you know what? I bit his ear. I bit his ear. Because they see what Holyfield was doing right see what he was doing tyson like telling the refs like oh, yeah, I'm just because it's in front of me. I was like I was a fight there.
17:41 Kanye West: We talking about this we we've been you know discussing doing things together to uh to bring attention to Hoover's situation, right um, and actually I got larry hoover. Yeah, I see I introduce myself. I recognize his face. Yeah, so at a certain moment I want to take a moment when I just talk about the exact.
18:01 Drink Champs: Absolutely.
18:02 Kanye West: Understand this leader and political prisoner, right, you know, like when I went to the white house I said this is me in a different dimension, you know any one of us that can organize somebody they're gonna take us down. They've been taking you know the leaders and the fathers out of the community and only leave us with a hustler mentality because you ain't got a dad to show you how to save money and what property to buy and how to build your own factories. We're gonna be jumping up and down for the idea like virgil getting a job for bernard arno or me getting a job at the gap or adidas a lot of times it's like we all was born white supremacist racist and homophobic. That's the bottom. That's the baseline. That's another thing. I don't even got the word for it, but it's like a phobia of mental health. That's the thing when people try to write it off. That's like even when I cut my hair like that. I'm like yo, they're gonna try to free what's the name of that haircut? At first, you know, I called it the britney.
18:51 Drink Champs: Oh, Britney Spears, okay.
18:54 Kanye West: Now it could be called a Ye, but when I see when I see that bro, I'm telling you you know the declaration of insanity is a form of censorship and control.
19:05 Drink Champs: Are you taking some Hennessy?
19:07 Drink Champs: I'd like to smooth that. Take some more Hennessy, I don't know what the hell you're talking about, but it's interesting. Let's go, let's go, let's go. You gotta sip it, it doesn't count unless you sip it.
19:15 Kanye West: Nah, I mean, you know, feds, democrats, whatever they know who I am, so I was up there like, man, maybe I shouldn't do you know, this interview, because that's when they really gonna come.
19:25 Drink Champs: You gotta understand, Kobe you can say whatever the fuck you want over here.
19:27 Kanye West: Yeah, yeah, but it's called, everything has like a butterfly effect. Kobe died on, you know, in Calabasas right, you know what I'm saying, on the street where I would drive my kids to school.
19:37 Drink Champs: That's crazy.
19:38 Kanye West: This video game, this Grand Theft Auto is real. You know, so, but, you know, with me and Drake, we all really on the same team just even on this planet, period, we're on the same team. We, we, the people we think are ops and all this stuff once we understand, and this is, I think, the job that God actually has for me is for us to all realize that we are playing inside of the same time. That's one thing we all got in common. If we all in the same place in the Christian calendar right at all times we could be the first civilization to become civil as a matter of fact, let me take out the word can. I hate the word can. I hate these, like, in between, you know can't, word can and should and if is like feds. It's like somebody you think is with you, they're not really with you. They're like a fourth leg that could just fall anytime your whole table fall over. Like, that's why we have to will these things in fruition. So we say we will be the first civilization to become civil. But we still in the dark ages. We attack each other mentally. We go back to the rap stuff for me and Drake this is, we in World War III. This is warfare right here. What they do, people can comment on you online that you don't know. You can't come see them. You know what I'm saying? In Korea, the suicide race is crazy. People's esteem, how you feel about yourself. Body dysmorphia, overdoing it with the drip and all that. So I'm about like Robin Hood really breaking down the class system. That's why I went to The Gap. Like people's like, man, Virgil went to Louis, you went to The Gap. I said, I always wanted to create egalitarian.
21:11 Drink Champs: You worked for The Gap.
21:11 Kanye West: Yeah, I worked for The Gap.
21:13 Drink Champs: So it was meant to be.
21:13 Kanye West: I always felt like Gap was sort of like apple of apparel for me, esteem and clothing is so connected your ego. Your ego connected to the first time my mom bought me some Jordans in fourth grade. I didn't even know they was the fours. I got the fours in fourth grade. If I always looked for like lineups like that. And somebody told my mama, he gonna like this. And then I walked through the school and everybody was looking at my shoes. I didn't even know about it. Then I would go visit my dad out in Tacoma Park, Maryland and it was this rich kid that had enough Jordans to be able to wear mismatched Jordans like BBD. And it happened with the jabot shorts and with a polo shirt.
21:52 Drink Champs: Wow.
21:52 Kanye West: Because I'm coming to dress like Heavy D with the metal with the tip of my shoes and stuff with like rayon shirts and polka dots. And he's like, we don't dress like that no more we dress like this. I came back to Chicago with the new style. And ever since then, I've always been like ahead of niggas. And I always like that feeling of being ahead. But if you're ahead long enough, eventually you need to become the head. You need to become the leader. So I had the wildest conversation. I remember this one time, Lauren gonna be mad at me. But I texted her, I said, I'm.
21:21 Drink Champs: You're saying Lauren, you're talking about Lauren Hill?
22:23 Kanye West: Yeah, Lauren Hill.
22:23 Drink Champs: Okay.
22:24 Kanye West: There's gonna be a lot of super name drops.
22:27 Drink Champs: Getting the graphics ready.
22:29 Kanye West: And I was like, I was like, I'm the leader and she was like, you a leader.
22:36 Drink Champs: Hold on, so she said you a leader, man that's Shutdown to Lauren Hill. Hold on, so she said you a leader.
22:44 Kanye West: She didn't call you the leader.
22:45 Kanye West: Yeah.
22:45 Drink Champs: Not the supreme leader.
22:46 Kanye West: Yeah, but.
22:47 Drink Champs: No, the supreme leader is God.
22:48 Kanye West: But God appoints leaders at a certain point they are leaders.
22:54 Drink Champs: Right.
22:54 Kanye West: You know, so all the like me too like when I sit next to Marilyn Manson and DaBaby right after both of them got canceled for five songs.
23:04 Drink Champs: Right.
23:04 Kanye West: You know, it's like they can't cancel us all they can cancel Dave Chappelle.
23:09 Drink Champs: Dave Chappelle ain't getting canceled.
23:10 Kanye West: That's what I'm saying.
23:11 Drink Champs: Right.
23:11 Kanye West: We gotta, and then it's like they'll hit you with like an accusation or somebody that you was with you know, 10 years ago. Okay, and then also it's like there's women who have been through really serious things pulled in alleys against they will. That's different than a hug.
23:30 Drink Champs: Right.
23:30 Kanye West: But it's classified as the same thing.
23:33 Drink Champs: The same thing.
23:34 Kanye West: Right it's classified as the same thing. You know, it's power and politics. You know, power hungry maniacs and just control. This is 1984 mind control that we in and mom mentality too.
23:45 Drink Champs: Oh, mom mentality. How do you feel about cancel culture? How do you feel about cancel culture?
23:49 Kanye West: Oh man, I love it. I'm above it.
23:50 Drink Champs: They try to cancel you like 15 times.
23:52 Kanye West: Yeah, I love it. I'm above it. You know what I mean? I love it. I'm above it. That's the clouds when you're in the jet. You look down at the clouds. It's like I'm like running to get cancer doing this show. It's just like I'm begging to get cancer. And then different people will call me and make suggestions. They'll be like you know, I suggest you know, maybe you shouldn't be buying. If you're suggesting that to me why are you so into it? Unless you're really into it unless you're really part of the mob. Because the mob it got a couple mob members here right now.
24:29 Drink Champs: Most definitely.
24:29 Kanye West: Right.
24:30 Drink Champs: Most definitely.
24:30 Kanye West: You know what I'm saying? That different kind of mob. But you got to understand they all doing their job. We all here for a reason. God got a reason. God sees everything. Right and if I'm still alive God's not finished. Like I say on 24.
24:43 Drink Champs: Right.
24:43 Kanye West: Which I wrote I actually wrote the day before Kobe passed the melody. And we ended up and the funny thing we went back and forth on this song and when we did the listening event down in the listening event in Atlanta the first one for Howard Atlanta we started with 24 for the Donda album.
25:05 Drink Champs: For the Donda album.
25:05 Kanye West: Yeah, we started with 24. All my people out the trenches living up make it all right. And then the funny thing I had a clip of Kobe and his daughter in the video and we called his wife everything and we couldn't get it cleared. But one of the things when Kobe passed there was somebody that I used to work with whose wife literally tweeted let's not forget that Kobe was accused and that's what they said that's when Snoop.
25:41 Drink Champs: Reacted to that.
25:42 Drink Champs: Because.
25:42 Kanye West: So that's what they said because you talk about superheroes.
25:47 Drink Champs: Right.
25:47 Kanye West: They don't want to what did AZ say they don't want to see a black man turn to John Gotti or caller but like they don't want you to have this they want you to have a house they want you to have the cars they want you to look at the numbers on you know Billboard or Spotify or that's completely controlled they want you to look at your they want you to base your self-esteem off of TikTok. Hi God if another if another nigga talk to me about TikTok I don't got TikTok bro.
26:19 Drink Champs: It's fine.
26:21 Kanye West: Y'all can play you know Praise God and everything and that's great I'm happy that it connects to my children and everything but it's none of these things that can make me and that's the idea of being a nomad.
26:35 Drink Champs: I like that term though because I was talking.
26:37 Kanye West: To the head of Ikea about creating.
26:39 Drink Champs: I'm sure he won't like that keep going. Keep going I'm into it. They're like this is the first person that went and me too'd itself so.
26:52 Kanye West: Wait you're not laughing you didn't like that.
26:55 Drink Champs: I'm looking I'm reading the energy in the room it'll be an uproar. Here comes the backlash so you were the president of Ikea let's go. You were the president of Ikea what happened.
27:07 Kanye West: He gonna be like so I was just talking to her I said look we need to create better situations for homeless people. You know it's a really utopian dictator concept okay we're gonna eradicate homelessness what about people who want to be homeless and there's a lot of them that want to be homeless. There's a lot of people so that would change you gotta think we used to have water fountains now we got a plastic problem because of water bottles that's capitalism.
27:33 Drink Champs: That's deep.
27:33 Kanye West: You know everyone only thinks about themselves especially our black leaders.
27:39 Drink Champs: Right.
27:40 Kanye West: Wouldn't none of us run on stage wouldn't none of us say George Bush don't care about we are very self-interested.
27:48 Drink Champs: Those are two of the best moments in American history you said George Bush don't care about black people and when you told Taylor Swift that Beyonce had the best video of all time that's American history right there that's American history right there.
27:59 Kanye West: Would it be okay to not hit that for the whole rest of the year.
28:06 Drink Champs: No problem I was waiting for you to say that man you know I got a gentle mental no problem.
28:12 Kanye West: Man but that's American history like what.
28:16 Drink Champs: Was it Hennessy that night that would tell us when you sat there because why did you want to do that you know.
28:22 Kanye West: Well I was showing both of my addictions you know I found my dad's playboy when I was five years old and I started drinking beer or something in high school so I actually was carrying both of my addictions one and one arm one and the other. I was actually talked in to going to the awards show.
28:40 Drink Champs: Right.
28:41 Kanye West: At that time it was Don C's job to talk me into stuff they find new people whose job would be to talk me into doing something that I don't want to do.
28:48 Drink Champs: Influencers people around you.
28:49 Kanye West: So that night I said man I'm not going to this awards show I'm not sitting through this no more and the very first award they sent me in the front. Now
28:59 Drink Champs: Amber at the time right.
29:03 Kanye West: Yeah they got this is one of the best videos of in history to my Beyonce the single lady.
29:12 Drink Champs: Yeah.
29:12 Kanye West: So it's not it's not that it's just for her when an artist does something that's that compelling and incredible we got to respect it.
29:20 Drink Champs: Right.
29:20 Kanye West: Like I feel like this year just should nobody just even put their album in the category or album of the year so I can finally have album of the year because you don't want to be the person that beat Donda for album of the year.
29:29 Drink Champs: I love that I love that I love that.
29:32 Kanye West: You know you got to understand I made I made Watch the Throne and now I made Watch the Throne and Dark Fantasy in the same year my beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy in the same year and neither of them got nominated for album of the year not even nominated not even nominated.
29:46 Drink Champs: Wow.
29:47 Kanye West: So and you know what I love hey I'm going to just tell y'all this when white people say the word rapper that is saying nigger. When you say it to me you saying you getting away with saying nigger.
30:01 Drink Champs: Damn oh the rapper alright okay oh the rapper.
30:05 Kanye West: Or like last night on the game they had my face on the chyron on the screen and said hip hop artist specifically. I was like you know what I got a PhD from the art institution of Chicago from the most prestigious art school in the world.
30:21 Drink Champs: Wow.
30:21 Kanye West: Could I at least be called an artist but you know here it's like in America they not going to just give it to you but it's to be bought it's to be taken you know what I'm saying like at this point bro this is like there will be blood you know I'm not really dragon's blood.
30:40 Drink Champs: That's what we talking about.
30:42 Kanye West: Yeah.
30:42 Drink Champs: Absolutely dragon's blood.
30:45 Kanye West: In the bible they got dragons.
30:46 Drink Champs: Absolutely really.
30:47 Kanye West: Yeah there will be blood bro like remember when a dude brother acting like he was his brother and everything and like I don't know if y'all seen this movie it's one of my favorite movies but that's me bro that's me bro. It's like the kid with the pink polos I be telling people like yo it's not like that no more with me period like bro like cause you know what I'm saying they did everything God gave me that 6.6 like right when they announced that Kim was filing for divorce one week later whatever God was like nah nah this is my son right here 6.6 and Forbes was always on some white supremacist shit like downing me for three years they like oh Kylie a billionaire Ye not a billionaire you know and even in my Forbes if you read the article it's like it's drenched with some like Jackie Robinson everything.
30:40 Drink Champs: Nigga what'd you say.
30:43 Kanye West: Cause Jackie Robinson was the first.
31:44 Drink Champs: Yeah yeah.
31:45 Kanye West: So the idea of what it even means to be a billionaire but to not color inside the lines you know my mom was born into a drinking fountain.
31:56 Kanye West: They told her what fountain she could drink out of.
32:00 Drink Champs: Okay.
32:00 Kanye West: Now we born into a vote they literally call it the black vote.
32:05 Drink Champs: Yeah.
32:06 Kanye West: And by the way we all blood of Christ we blood of Moses we're not we're not even classified under race but if we're gonna be inside of race conversation don't be telling me what you done did for the black people I started the black SPAC or this black or this black investments for hair clippers and what you think I might be. I remember being out in San Francisco bro it's like I ain't never made money with not one person from Silicon Valley. Have you ever saw the show Silicon Valley.
32:31 Drink Champs: Yes.
32:31 Kanye West: It's a great show like the opening episode was Kid Rock performing and he said I'm Kid Rock and then nobody clapped at the end of his performance and one dude says another see that's Kid Rock he the brokeest person here that best describes my experience in Silicon Valley whether I'm sitting with Google whether I'm sitting with Mark Zuckerberg whether I'm sitting man I already been shadowbanned they shadowbanned me in the middle of the election so what I got to lose I don't use Twitter anymore I'm friends I'm friends with Jackson Dorsey I get I said man why y'all why y'all shadowbanned me he hit me back he said I don't see anything weird here cause you now look at you gave me I didn't inhale ass answer to why I got shadowbanned after I went to Haiti.
33:08 Drink Champs: I don't even know what shadowbanned means I'm sorry.
33:10 Kanye West: They don't see your stuff they don't see your stuff you don't notice it but they don't see it load up if you go right now and load up Emmanuel album by Sunday Service on Apple if you don't type it all the way to the very end it ain't gonna pop up it's little things inside of.
33:19 Drink Champs: But let's be clear you was a little crazy on Twitter at one point remember. But does that get a right for them to shadowbanned too?
33:26 Kanye West: It's freedom of speech though you're taking that away.
33:27 Drink Champs: I don't even know shadowbanned yeah and what was the craziest thing.
33:29 Kanye West: Exposing exposing I had ten contracts that everybody around me knew I had ten contracts everybody that supposedly cared for me knew I had ten contracts.
33:35 Drink Champs: Cause you're not on Def Jam no more right.
33:38 Kanye West: Oh I'm off of it now but what I'm saying is I signed contract after contract after contract after contract and it's no one it's like one of my skill sets is not reading one of my skill sets is not counting and people be like oh you need to learn how man I ain't telling any niggas learn how to dress I'm not telling any niggas but if we moved as a family in a community you know what Jay said say we could fall we could view each other's crutches we could benefit each other but the system tears us apart left and right Jay this way Dane that way Ye this way Virgil that way we're stronger together we're impenetrable together.
34:05 Kanye West: We have to vote I don't know what it means impenetrable.
34:07 Drink Champs: Impenetrable can't get through we're using that one.
34:09 Kanye West: We have to vote as a block.
34:10 Drink Champs: Right.
34:11 Kanye West: We vote.
34:11 Drink Champs: I would have voted for you for president.
34:12 Kanye West: Yeah I don't know did you see me on the I went on the campaign I was.
34:15 Drink Champs: We talked about it a lot we talked about it a lot.
34:17 Kanye West: I was like I was like five I was by myself like not the people who supported me.
34:22 Drink Champs: But I supported you it's on TMZ.
34:26 Kanye West: Praise God I appreciate that when it's time to get free the only way we're going to do it is by leveraging anchor it's like the Jewish community is not the most people in America but they understand how to collectively use they leverage to have a position that serves them. You know what I'm saying now what I keep on saying is we're us we're a collective humanity we're a collective but we so easy to get into like an ego thing just like with the Drake thing man I love Drake I was just telling you things that he was doing in the professional game of rap that was throwing me off and then okay I bit his ear you know what I mean and that's what happened that was Mike Tyson that was professional sports we in professional rap.
35:06 Kanye West: Meaning it's too many people that get paid off for either of us for something to happen to either of us you know what I'm saying so we'll be on the record talking about I'm going to do this no you're not you're too rich.
35:19 Kanye West: It doesn't become ridiculous at that point.
35:22 Drink Champs: Yeah you know what I mean.
35:24 Kanye West: So and why you know and life is just so fun and it's lit and we get to be professional you know rappers for a period of time out of our life and pull in this energy and have people talking about it but it's a certain responsibility I think that it's a redemption a redeeming quality that's what I have I be wanting to sit down with Drake to say this just as an OG to him is the redemption like when I asked him for the beat for TSU that's my favorite song on CLB they say mama is not around daddy is not around CLB is my certified little boy.
35:53 Drink Champs: Yeah.
35:58 Kanye West: Yeah so I'm not going to do a joke like man you ain't know the name of the album you're this no no no listen man I live in my own world too man I'm not exactly you or him but I live in my own world too and I'm kind of the man in my shit so I mean I'm sorry but yeah you have CLB I'm bad.
36:14 Kanye West: You don't have to say sorry to me I'm fine with you not knowing that I feel like going you can hear it one time one time one time.
36:26 Drink Champs: Oh shit this is great this is great.
36:33 Kanye West: But the redemptive quality is like that third verse because if you just leave it as it is it's going to stay as it is and for me in my opinion Lucy and Grey they got no problem with it staying as is I got a problem with it staying as is I got a.
36:50 Kanye West: You know it's funny I call Damien Hurst that did Drake's cover because I felt like I didn't like the cover I felt like he was trying to troll him or something and I love Damien Hurst I just bought a couple of his pieces right now one of my top five favorite artworks of all time is these animals he put in embalming fluid you know when you do my interview with y'all should have it's just things just pop up at the bottom.
37:17 Drink Champs: Don't worry about it.
37:18 Kanye West: So he did this shark it's kind of similar to this scene in the cell that had J-Lo by Tar Samuel a horse separated like this so he actually did this and I bought a dove for my family for my wife to put it there and I bought this black sheep because that's you know that's that's me so I.
37:37 Drink Champs: You bought a black sheep.
37:38 Kanye West: It's an actual black sheep and embalming fluid and it's by Damien Hurst who did the Drake album cover so I.
37:43 Kanye West: I'm thinking you bought a real black sheep but it's physically it is it is it is it is it is.
37:49 Kanye West: No I actually bought it's a rich nigga shit.
37:53 Kanye West: I actually bought 1200 living sheep.
37:55 Drink Champs: Okay.
37:56 Kanye West: But I bought one.
37:57 Drink Champs: You're a sheep herder officially.
38:00 Kanye West: Yes so the that was the easy.
38:04 Kanye West: So it's that third verse I used to rap like this I would say girl and give me no ass you need to go down and the next line would say the pastor said I need Jesus so I went to the church and let the water wash over my season I always gave a redemption you know what I'm saying like it's like what bone thugs told you about you know feds sitting with them saying make negative music that's going to put more of us in jail it's documented you can load it up.
38:33 Drink Champs: Wow.
38:34 Kanye West: So we do that and you get like of God people Travis Scott Drake Kanye West we of God God's plan and then we make these songs that don't have a redemptive quality in what we're saying because maybe we trying to look harder or be cooler or this that younger whatever it is and act like we ready to die as much as people who really get you know ten bodies and really.
39:04 Drink Champs: Was there ever I'm sorry did it because the rumor is that Drake took a shot at you on that song but Travis Scott was on that same song was married.
39:15 Drink Champs: Did it ever put a strenuous relationship.
39:18 Kanye West: Oh yeah I put everybody on a group text everybody gets a group and what I don't like is like you know.
39:22 Drink Champs: Who's in this group text.
39:26 Kanye West: It was Jay-Z Kim Kardashian.
39:28 Drink Champs: Jay-Z ain't got nothing to do with this by the way.
39:31 Kanye West: No he's on the song Jay-Z's on.
39:34 Kanye West: See this I talked to Jay at the wedding the other day he didn't know when he did the song that me and Drake had a problem so after it came out he's now in it that's just like I did it before the fact but what I'm saying is so it's like Trav but then Drake says it's like he said I'm gonna put you on a guild I have somebody put you on a guild which means put you on a t-shirt.
39:53 Drink Champs: Right.
39:53 Kanye West: And I'm talking to everybody that's in this community.
39:56 Drink Champs: Wait a minute Drake said that on the group text.
39:57 Kanye West: On the album.
39:58 Drink Champs: On the album.
39:58 Kanye West: No not on the group text he said it on the song.
40:01 Drink Champs: Okay.
40:01 Kanye West: And I'm talking to all these it's Kid Cudi Pusha Drake Jay-Z Kim and Trav one of the lines I said that was legend is I said I'm worth more than all of y'all on this text combined.
40:14 Drink Champs: Yeah.
40:15 Kanye West: You said that was a what.
40:17 Drink Champs: What did you say.
40:20 Kanye West: That was a that was.
40:21 Drink Champs: I don't know what you just said he said he wrote that in the text group he wrote everybody.
40:25 Kanye West: Yeah that was one of the elements of the text.
40:27 Drink Champs: Okay this is an intense group chat.
40:30 Kanye West: But everybody you know everybody wanna soon as I start dropping bars oh my god he's in the episode oh my god he need to go to the hospital oh my god oh my god oh my god and it's just oh god oh no.
40:46 Drink Champs: This is so good.
40:54 Drink Champs: This is so good keep going.
40:55 Kanye West: You want some more Habiki.
40:56 Drink Champs: He's like just get good give me some Habeki please.
41:00 Kanye West: You're going you're going in there.
41:01 Drink Champs: I just gotta shut up.
41:03 Kanye West: But what I'm saying is as a community we have to police police ourselves so if you know you got a person that's you know we in a league we in a league of our own right it's like the NBA life itself but then also this like celebrity influential place of like musicians and influencers and stuff like that and they have shit that's called like flagrant fouls inside of the league.
41:29 Drink Champs: So in this group chat did you tell Travis Scott that was a flagrant foul.
41:33 Kanye West: Exactly.
41:34 Drink Champs: Okay.
41:35 Kanye West: Because no the thing is he could have put the line on without everybody knowing so that means I felt like everybody should go to Drake and be like you ain't saying that to North Saint Chicago and Psalms the dad because he could be saying shit that's poking at me and and and driving me crazy and then if I do something that seems crazy then they just blaming me it's like every nigga that got locked up is a reason they didn't do it just because their life was perfect and they had all the opportunities in the world and their dad brought them up there's very few people like that that is just born serial killer that's what they want to do people are always there for a reason and ain't nobody like you know I have this conversation where Drake is like you know I never fucked Kim but I was like but you acted like you did you got bars just like Hidden Hills give your wife the chills you doing all kind of it's like somebody throwing a marble and hiding their hand or something like that it's like all that's disrespectful.
42:37 Drink Champs: Y'all actually had this conversation.
42:38 Kanye West: We had this conversation and this is all and to the point where Kim be like I don't listen to this nigga no more this nigga acting like he fucked and like we ain't never really like we never really had that conversation he said oh I never fucked him.
42:49 Drink Champs: Right.
42:49 Kanye West: No but what about did you ever DM her did you ever.
42:53 Drink Champs: You know what I'm saying.
42:54 Kanye West: Everything else around it you know because it ain't about just the actual act of it you know the act the anticipation of something is what we live in now is the shortest moment of our life now the now that was just there is just gone now you know what I'm saying so you could be sitting there like did he did he not that's worse than if you I would rather you did and I just actually had to just deal deal with the finality because my mind I'm like a Xerox printer you know I'm Christian but I'll tell you something I talked to a healer that said I'm dealing with resentment from multiple lives of disloyalty of the way I felt you know with Virgil going to Louis and just things that jealousy.
42:39 Drink Champs: So it actually was a problem because that's what you heard.
42:40 Kanye West: Yeah absolutely I was jealous what do you mean I'm a human being and people try to tell you what to say in press and what to feel like you don't feel that you was in my situation and you riding no no this is the other thing Sicko Mode they would play it at the kids party so I'd have to bring my kids to a party with this man threatening my life on a song welcome to Calabasas and then they wonder why you end up you know in the hospital there's it has to be some type of respect a male perspective a God perspective and some type of community leadership and I'm the leader.
44:18 Kanye West: And that's what I told Lauren Hale.
44:20 Drink Champs: Yeah.
44:20 Kanye West: I told Lauren Hale I told everybody I'm the leader.
44:23 Kanye West: Let's look at it let's open up this bible now you're and your grandmother you need Jesus yeah you need Jesus that's what you need Jesus.
44:28 Drink Champs: Man my favorite song by the way because all.
44:31 Kanye West: Praise God because all of this that we're doing it ain't adding up to nothing now God is pointing at me and said this man worth nine billion dollars Jesus this man and that's pretty good for a black man since I was all the black first of all I said that before we got to take the black version off it because I'm running I'm running circles around you know all the other you know what we're going to do all of us black or white but what we're going to do to the world we got to make some noise for that.
45:01 Drink Champs: Continue I ain't going to lie you got me hype motherfucker I'm sorry.
45:08 Kanye West: Yeah I mean like look at Moses Moses in order for Moses to be Moses he had the ability to be able to take down anybody else that's my thing if I'm going to rap on a song if I'm going to do a beat if we talk about money whatever we're talking about I'm going to be the Moses of the situation because that's what God anointed me that skill set to be able to do that you know what I'm saying it's like I can you know what I'm saying you wouldn't have Drake write a Virgil no you wouldn't have Virgil do a song for you but you wouldn't have Drake pick out a purse for you you know what I'm saying but I would compete with both of them at the same caliber you know competing with Virgil at Louis Vuitton with my little brown sweatshirts somehow this man been anointed with different skill sets so that's why I said I put them on a group text and it wasn't about the matching Arc'teryx or Kid Cudi dress it's like you know how it is if you texting a girl or a girl texts you back they might just to gain some position text you back slow different things I don't let me tell you as the leader I don't operate like that don't be on my phone texting me back slow if I.
46:13 Drink Champs: You demand an immediate response or don't be on my phone.
46:21 Drink Champs: That don't work with.
46:24 Kanye West: Like I said to you I'm a Xerox printer meaning I could see a dinosaur bone and build a dinosaur out of it mentally so if I hear a verse I'm going to build a dinosaur I'm going to hear a dinosaur bone out of a line because people could look and be like oh he never did this but that don't mean that line hasn't built an entire dinosaur bone and this is a perfect time for me to come back because you got to understand I was Ye and then they started making more Yes watch this Ye is like this encompassing thing of fashion bars beats production videos this and then what happened is you get Rocky dressing better than me Tyler making better videos Drake more records Virgil higher position in fashion and J. Cole more backpack or Kendrick better bars and stuff so I literally had to go like Thanos and I don't want to have to be the villain but when I went and did the Donda thing Ye returned and everybody had to sit back and watch the real leader they could talk about goats and this and that it's like because I affect people 20 years older than me I affect people 20 years younger than me and that's what it factually is and you got to know who you is and you got to tell people who you are I got this money guy as I'm up here disappointed because actually I got to stop screaming at white people but I got this money guy that said yo you got 80 accounts open which is what I said it's the hit it's the way to kill me and he was just dismissive he was like man I just saw what Trump did with this SPAC and you can you can do this I said man when I do it we're going to get up to Elon and Bezos and Arnaud territory and he just says to me very nonchalantly I'm not going to say it's going to be all that three minutes later in conversation he's talking to me about you got 80 accounts open and this is ridiculous he said it at the beginning you know I said I already heard that and I started raising my voice and he checked me like who you screaming at who you screaming at but it's like boy when you said when you dismiss me and when I try to stand up and you push my shoulder like that that's a part of the programming in schools today I seen my son do his homework at Sierra Canyon that cause I cause daddy got his own school called Donda named after my mom first black female English chair in the English department in Chicago State so he's doing his homework and it's math and it's got three eggs and two eggs and it says three plus two equals what and he says five and the next one has three eggs plus two eggs and it says two plus one equals what and he says five and see the picture was wrong with the number. He starts to get frustrated he starts crying he doesn't understand and I was there you know thinking he was too young for me to explain this to him I was like no this is getting you prepped to be pulled over for no reason and think it's okay this is getting prepped for you to be the person that deserved a job if someone else get the job they hire Virgil over you and you think it's okay and you can't say none because you a sellout to black people if you say you gotta go get a hug you know what I'm saying they're getting you prepped it's prep school right baby it's preparation for your limitation.
49:49 Drink Champs: That's deep that's deep.
49:55 Kanye West: We in these schools right now baby.
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49:56 Drink Champs: Oh you thought I wasn't gonna get killed by the end of this interview I'm gonna try my best.
01:02:59 Drink Champs: No no you're giving it to us the schools have gotten worse to be honest you're giving it to us you know what I'm saying but it's a part of the overall slave ship and the slave mentality when I cut when I cut my hair like this.
01:03:12 Drink Champs: Did you cut it yourself or a barber did that.
01:03:14 Kanye West: Let me tell you I should have cut my hair myself because I was in Europe.
01:03:17 Drink Champs: So you paid a nigga to do that no no tell me exactly I'm asking you yeah I'm asking you.
01:03:24 Kanye West: It's funny that you say that because I asked he kept on like cutting it because he's a barber if you ever cut a plug and somebody had your barbershop might shut down I cut hair for a living back you know 14, 15 I used to do that to buy clothes and also to buy music equipment.
01:03:37 Drink Champs: Okay.
01:03:38 Kanye West: I got a story let me go get into some real rap shit we had to like we're into this we're into this I had to just give you some you know all TMZ existence ye thing at the beginning so damn what was that train of thought.
01:03:55 Drink Champs: We were talking about the barber.
01:03:56 Kanye West: Okay haircut if you cut a if you cut a plug in somebody's hair you could lose your job you can I remember I used to cut hair and I had like one day I had like six clients I had the most money I might have had like 120 I don't know and the next day these barbers they was real good in town they said your boy was on a mission you know yesterday I was feeling all proud I was like yeah well I was getting it in and then he said people was walking in like this and walking out like this.
01:04:28 Kanye West: No because I was bad I didn't know I was going there.
01:04:34 Drink Champs: Okay so so yeah.
01:04:40 Kanye West: So he cuts my hair and I'm going through it's taking an hour I'm like I'll take a little bit more here do this here and after it took all the life out of this man as a black barber as an African American as a blood of Christ as a Hebrew as a.
01:04:57 Drink Champs: See I'm telling y'all what it is right.
01:04:58 Kanye West: So and he was so disappointed that he he didn't even charge me he just walked away like man I did this to Kanye West for something that you asked for too.
01:05:10 Drink Champs: Yeah yeah.
01:05:11 Kanye West: And then a few days later I cut my hair now mind you I thought it was lit and only God the universe the video game that my haircut is and then whenever it's something about our press or what the kid's name is she part of putting that information out but then she over my house.
01:05:26 Kanye West: But the fact that my haircut and my name came at the same time no more slave name it had to be something because to do that this is harder than wearing a Trump hat because every time it's my image you know I'm fly so it's just everything is like you get your haircut it's Friday night I'm finna go to the club or I gotta go to a wedding or I gotta go to a graduation or I'm going to my job yo as a man as a black man your lining your haircut means so much so then I'm sitting in the mirror at the hotel and I grab and I remember oh snap I have a barber skill set and an art skill set and I start cutting because one of my homegirls like I think it need a lining because it just looks really it's still lined up.
01:06:09 Drink Champs: Yeah.
01:06:09 Kanye West: It's still lined up and I was like I ain't finna get no lining I got nine billion dollars I need a lining I don't need no lining so so then I I cut it a different way and the name of my basketball team is the Doves the Donda Doves so I like I started to cut it like a dove so this is actually three doves cutting my hair and what I like is one patch will grow back and it starts to make these layers and I said you know I'm an artist like a process artist and I like to let people in on a process like what we did with the rollout so when you see the hair it's like you see the process of the haircut you also see the process it's like a representation of my thoughts developing because of how close it is to my you know to my head and then the whole thing is it it gotta look hot you know at the end of the day like it's girls that hit me like yo I like that with a mask cause I when I cause I when I wore a mask Hov text us and told us don't tell make sure he don't walk in with that white mask I got I got I got the mask on me actually where is it at where is it at I was I was actually about to start giving our haircuts cause apparently this is about to be a thing.
01:07:29 Drink Champs: Yeah somebody a lot of people going to bite your shit yeah.
01:07:31 Kanye West: And my hair my barber name is Edward Niggerhance.
01:07:34 Drink Champs: Niggerhance Niggerhance I like him already and I like the fact you hold him a smoke champs I like that if you want to light up you can light up if you want to light up yeah you can light up it's okay.
01:07:47 Drink Champs: Yeah no no no you thinking about it you thinking about it alright come on you my Joe Rogan let's go.
01:07:51 Kanye West: Hey man I'm not a real smoker y'all ain't gonna embarrass me.
01:07:59 Drink Champs: You gotta light up you gotta light up I got the girls I'm gonna be like yeah somebody light it for me please so let me ask this is kind of a serious question right because I remember when Nas.
01:08:12 Drink Champs: Named his company Elwell right and I believe that he had to change the name of his company because it's easy to say like fuck Elwell but Elwell is an actual person Elwell was his actual best friend so was there ever a time where you said that about naming your album that because let's suppose somebody don't like this album and somebody could say fuck Donna they're not saying fuck your mother but they're saying fuck the actual material did you ever feel any concern about that naming it after her.
01:08:46 Kanye West: Not at all but I have seen them do these things when everybody said they like Donda way better than CLB they had this thing where they had these football players coming up saying what you like better CLB or Donda and then they was like CLB and then one of them was like yeah fuck Donda I was like bro that's my mama.
01:09:05 Drink Champs: Yeah yeah oh that was it that was it that was it that was it that was it that was it.
01:09:19 Drink Champs: No but so so you did feel that a certain way like it was a football player saying fuck.
01:09:25 Kanye West: Yeah but he was saying fuck the album.
01:09:27 Drink Champs: Okay so moving on who was it that you said you wanted to work with DaBaby and you couldn't work with him.
01:09:33 Kanye West: Oh yeah it's like people in my camp was trying to protect me from working with DaBaby it's so funny I had talked DaBaby or Little Baby I forgot which one was it well you know it was really hard for me getting in contact with both of them in all actuality I had to tweet to really.
01:09:48 Drink Champs: But you had a red hat on at the time though.
01:09:49 Kanye West: No this is after I had a red hat on but I still got a red hat on today I'll let y'all know that I might not get it on but I'll let y'all know where I stand.
01:09:56 Drink Champs: Confirmed but that was one of the that was one of the the thing your first listening session was in the Mercedes dome in Atlanta and that was one of the stand out things one getting to hear you and Jay back together getting to hear Jay say that this might be the return of the throne but he did say I told him put that red hat to you that red hat all alone.
01:10:21 Kanye West: Yeah that was funny bro I literally got on some like Michael from Goodfellas like going crazy like it ain't like that you can't tell me what happened I done had gangsters try to take my hat when I was and then but I did get him though because I heard that he was watching on the the third listener session okay so we start off with JL and song and then it's like he's not on it then it's DaBaby.
01:10:49 Drink Champs: Yeah it's DaBaby he's not on it yeah we watched that too yeah and he had to be like but DaBaby.
01:10:58 Drink Champs: Versus hard.
01:11:00 Kanye West: You know it's another thing it's so funny okay I was sitting in the studio I was sitting backstage at Soldier Field with Roddy Ricch and DaBaby and I was like yo God really got a new level of shooters around right now they in another algorithm it's the whole thing the way DaBaby be rap he go into that beat and out of that beat around that beat he'll give you the melody that man was the number one streaming artist for a reason this is like Terminator 3 right you know what I'm saying I understand people like a slow flow here and there blah blah but that's the thing that's the moment when obviously like Nas made Ether and that's gonna be forever you know I made Takeover.
01:11:42 Drink Champs: No no I never knew that.
01:11:43 Kanye West: Yeah I made Takeover.
01:11:44 Drink Champs: No I never knew that.
01:11:46 Kanye West: And my girlfriend Sumiki Rainey from Chicago is the one that gave me the sample she gave me the sample for The Truth and she gave me the sample for Takeover she's like ah this is one that kind of sounds like The Truth you might like it.
01:11:57 Drink Champs: Gonna win taking over come on don't don't don't don't don't don't don't the tickets.
01:12:06 Kanye West: Oh you know listen Kanye.
01:12:07 Drink Champs: We have a game on our show.
01:12:09 Kanye West: Yeah.
01:12:09 Drink Champs: What you finish.
01:12:11 Kanye West: Oh yeah I wanted to say something about related to Takeover the reason why I say Timbaland because he's from Virginia.
01:12:17 Drink Champs: That's the reason.
01:12:19 Kanye West: I don't like for her.
01:12:20 Drink Champs: No, it's that, it's that kind of Fred Hampton, Devontae, Jodeci, that chord, that church thing, that Detroit, deep house, Chicago, deep house, those church chords, that's it.
01:12:57 Kanye West: Okay. Timbaland was one of the, and Devontae, the main thing that we do at Sunday Service is that we want to do Fred Hammon, we want to get Jodeci. So, even when I did this album, Emmanuel's, a Christmas album, our notes, you would think it's like some Catholic choir, but the notes have the updated operating system. It has those type of, those type of chord progression. Now, mind you, Pharrell, Pharrell get them chords though. Because you know why I feel like Pharrell is actually, you Pharrell is actually lost members of Native Tongue.
01:13:37 Drink Champs: Yeah.
01:13:38 Kanye West: Did I get that accurate?
01:13:39 Drink Champs: Yeah.
01:13:39 Kanye West: Because, like, you guys weren't tough guys to quote-unquote, but you guys were hip-hop. Is that accurate?
01:13:49 Drink Champs: Yeah.
01:13:50 Kanye West: I'm a little, I'm a little, Habiki got me?
01:13:52 Drink Champs: Yeah. Habeki got you a little bit. Okay, all right. MPC 3000 or MPC 2000 XL?
01:14:01 Kanye West: Yeah, the 2000, I use the 2000, so I gotta go with the 2000.
01:14:04 Drink Champs: I don't know, I don't know. You still using it?
01:14:07 Kanye West: Yeah, I still use it, I still use the ASR and the 2000.
01:14:11 Drink Champs: Yeah. Okay, analog or digital?
01:14:16 Kanye West: I'll just say analog.
01:14:18 Drink Champs: Right off the bat, I'd, like, shoot stuff in 16mm, but we use Pro Tools.
01:14:23 Kanye West: Okay. Right.
01:14:24 Drink Champs: So, Fat Joe or Jaro?
01:14:28 Kanye West: Damn. Well, Fat Joe, because I grew up, he had, gotta flow, Joe.
01:14:32 Drink Champs: Gotta flow, Joe. Gotta flow, Joe. Right. Okay. Puff Daddy or Dr. Dre?
01:14:40 Kanye West: Well, Puff Daddy, because we twins.
01:14:43 Drink Champs: I like that. That's enough.
01:14:46 Drink Champs: Be good.
01:14:48 Kanye West: Man, also, he got that, you know what I mean? It's just like, uh...
01:14:53 Drink Champs: Puff a Gemini?
01:14:54 Kanye West: Nah, he ain't a Gemini. That's that.
01:14:56 Drink Champs: He's Puff everything, man. Is he a Gemini?
01:14:58 Kanye West: He everything. Yeah, that's like what consequence is, like, it's that, that's that bop. Like, the, you know, it's just like Puff's bop that's closer to, like, Dre's got his bop as, like, the West Coast bop, but I really was like on some trying to put the shakers and, you know, trying to be all the hitmen in one.
01:15:17 Drink Champs: So, Swiss Beast or Just Blaze?
01:15:19 Kanye West: Well, Swiss Beast definitely because Just Blaze is a copycat. You know, he get credit for the blueprint and I did the first half of the blueprint and he just copied my half and got, I mean, look, look where I'm at today, look where you're at today. So, let's just show you.
01:15:34 Kanye West: No, what do you mean? I'll be here, my, and then it'll be all over the radio. I'll have my girl from Chicago who'll be in Hot 97 and stuff, listen to the radio. It'll be another Just Blaze song, another Just Blaze song. Maybe it's gonna be I'll be here.
01:15:49 Drink Champs: Yeah, yeah, yeah. All right.
01:15:51 Kanye West: Oh. No, I like, I like the originators, man.
01:15:53 Drink Champs: Okay.
01:15:53 Kanye West: I don't mind, like, you know, the copycats too. And by the way, you just gotta say it like it is. You know what I'm saying? I'd say, if somebody copied me, I'd be like, you copied me. You know what I'm saying? I'd tell Tribe, like, yo, you copied me, boy. And it's like, but I love you, but just know what it is. You know what I'm saying? We ain't gotta be, no, but, hey, man, it's our community, man. We can like, we just be, this other thing, when I had the record, where I'm saying Virgil and Drake, just because I say somebody's name don't mean it's a beef record. This is not beef. I ain't saying nothing. I just said, I put these two men on the same text. I said, stop it with the funny mess. Like, don't, man, we ain't operating.
01:16:35 Drink Champs: It's rhyme. Yeah.
01:16:36 Kanye West: Put the two on the same text and stop it with the funny mess.
01:16:38 Drink Champs: That's a ball?
01:16:38 Kanye West: Yeah, that's all it's on.
01:16:42 Drink Champs: Continue, continue.
01:16:43 Kanye West: I'm naming, I'm saying names because I don't like subliminals. I don't like sub, subs, sub with sub bait, you know, 808s. I don't like nothing where I can't see is that just be straightforward.
01:16:57 Drink Champs: Right.
01:16:57 Kanye West: You know, whatever it is, I honor that. You know, I respect that. You know what I'm saying? I gotta, hey, this is how I feel, this is how you feel and let's talk on that way. Let's not talk through no managers, let's not talk through no assistants, no bodyguards, no, no, nobody using you. You hit me direct.
01:17:14 Drink Champs: Yeah, right? You hit me direct. You hit me direct. You said, who are you talking to? I was like, who? He's like, he said, you formerly known as Kanye. It's that nigga.
01:17:23 Drink Champs: He said he didn't believe it. He's informally known as Kanye. That's him. That's him, all right, cool. Okay. Busta or Missy?
01:17:34 Kanye West: They both from Virginia now.
01:17:35 Drink Champs: Yeah.
01:17:36 Kanye West: I'm just playing.
01:17:38 Drink Champs: I'm just playing.
01:17:39 Kanye West: No, but I look at them as different genres, though, a bit, but you talking about like, if it's videos.
01:17:45 Drink Champs: Artists.
01:17:46 Kanye West: Yeah.
01:17:47 Drink Champs: Or whatever in your mind.
01:17:48 Kanye West: Yeah, whatever in your mind.
01:17:49 Drink Champs: Is the criteria that you create.
01:17:51 Kanye West: That's same, actually.
01:17:52 Drink Champs: Same? Take a shot then, God damn it. Come on, baby. We outside. We a comeback. I'm looking for the Valley Chanchi. Where my comeback? I don't got my own shot glass. How you shot glass? What you been doing?
01:18:04 Kanye West: I been doing this, motherfucker.
01:18:05 Drink Champs: How you doing? What is that? You drinking Mama Juana again?
01:18:08 Kanye West: Mama Juana.
01:18:09 Drink Champs: Please, please don't confuse your cup with that shit. Represent. Dominicanos, eh?
01:18:14 Kanye West: Hey. Hey, I'm sorry.
01:18:16 Drink Champs: You know I love y'all Dominicans, but Mama Juana, not so much. But I love my Dominicans. Woof. Woof.
01:18:24 Kanye West: Okay. Yo, this is, let me tell you, I want to make clear why I have a major problem. It's a publicist because she promotes fear. And if my wife can be scared, who the main person is she going to be scared of? And then after that, who my kid's going to be scared of? If you promote the idea of fear and reading every single comment and being her ear all the time, giving these mid-level suggestions, not one suggestion I would ever take from this person. But all the suggestions I gave my wife, now she on the cover of Vogue. Now she a multi-billionaire. But now my relationship is, and then whenever it's something about our press or what the kid's name is, she part of putting that information out, but then she over my house. And I told her on the phone a week ago, I said, I'm being nice.
01:19:05 Drink Champs: Right.
01:19:09 Kanye West: Y'all want to keep playing with me? If it's up, then it's up. Because at the end of the day, I got to protect my children at all costs. And if they using their version, I'm using my version. Because guess what? I could get Nori's number.
01:19:22 Drink Champs: That's right.
01:19:23 Kanye West: And what's my daughter's name?
01:19:25 Drink Champs: Nori.
01:19:26 Kanye West: Nori.
01:47:28 Drink Champs: By the way, one of my best compliments I ever had in my whole life. We was going to see you perform, to watch you perform. This is the first time I think you did the circle, when you was in the circle. And you grabbed your wife. I was with my wife. You grabbed your wife and you grabbed her. You pulled her over to me. And the e-camera was just right in my face. I turned red. I didn't even know I'm brown. I turned red. I'm like, I just wanted to say hi to you. And you said, this is who we named our daughter after. And that's the biggest compliment I ever got. It's two of the biggest compliments I love. It's when you did that, and when Cormega said, you learning on the job and you winning. And I don't know how to think. I don't know. Do I get a free beat or something?
01:48:17 Drink Champs: Hold on. Let's move on. Let's move on. Let's move on because this is so great. Okay. Outkast or UGK?
01:48:24 Kanye West: Yeah, Outkast for me.
01:48:26 Drink Champs: Oh, okay. That was pretty cool. Scarface or Ice Cube?
01:48:30 Kanye West: That's another one. I just talked to Scarface yesterday. It's so crazy. And then, you know, I'll be hanging with Cube. Oh, shit. For me...
01:48:43 Drink Champs: It's a shot?
01:48:43 Kanye West: I'm trying to see who influenced me more. I like Cube better personally for, like, if I play his list of that. But Scarface is more influential to me as a rapper and to everyone as a rapper. He's another important part because when Scarface switched his style, when he started turning his words, like, around, like, marry, marry. I got the love forming in my life. And indeed, another form of life. Jay would add that. Scarface flow to his flow. I'm talking about people who add it to the flow. You get what I'm saying? It's not a specific thing where people could even rap like Ice Cube because Ice Cube, until he, like, really did the ye-ye and, like, added a style to it. His style was kind of similar to mine where it's like, it was sort of, you couldn't pinpoint it. You couldn't imitate it. You couldn't, it was just, like, Cube, me and Cube is both Gemini's. We both saying the same thing. We both from Virginia.
01:49:39 Drink Champs: Yeah, Gemini's. He's a Gemini too. My wife's a Gemini.
01:49:44 Kanye West: Y'all, they're taking the Gemini's way too far.
01:49:45 Drink Champs: Andre 3000 Gemini's?
01:49:47 Kanye West: Specifically Gemini's.
01:49:50 Drink Champs: Yeah, Gemini's got the most go-ten rap, though. Okay, so basically you're saying Cube.
01:49:52 Drink Champs: Biggie's a Gemini.
01:49:54 Drink Champs: No, you're saying Space.
01:49:54 Drink Champs: Oh, you're saying Cube.
01:49:55 Kanye West: I'm saying Tastes, like, my, you know, music is, I love both of them, but I'm going to say Cube, but I'm going to say Scarface is more influential as rap because he added, like, you got to look at rap like it's the NBA and it's certain people. Remember Kobe used to shoot up like this or, like, AI or, you know, people have added things to the overall game. You know, the half of the NBA is, like, number 23. It's, you know, people, and Scarface added something to it that people don't pinpoint enough. And that's specifically when he did that flow. I would like to get into the science of rap and the science of music.
01:50:32 Drink Champs: We can get into that. We're going to get into it. Go ahead.
01:50:33 Drink Champs: We're going to move on, though. Travis Scott or Kid Cudi?
01:50:39 Kanye West: Kid Cudi. Because Travis is a mix of me, Cudi, and Rocky.
01:50:45 Drink Champs: Jesus. Okay. Little Baby or Da Baby?
01:50:51 Kanye West: Man, what I was saying is, like, hmm. No, because they both are equally adding something new to rap itself. Like, it's mad people that rap. Like, people just rap like Little Baby. Like, there's so many people just rap like Little Baby. You could pick Wolf.
01:51:12 Drink Champs: Well, pick one.
01:51:12 Kanye West: Okay. You could pick Wolf.
01:51:13 Drink Champs: Take a shot. If you pick both, it sounds like you said both.
01:51:19 Kanye West: I'm going to go with Little Baby.
01:51:21 Drink Champs: Okay.
01:51:21 Kanye West: Because I did say Little Baby is my favorite rap. Because the thing is, when I just hear his raps, you know, he was on, it was a concert playing. And it just, it just put me into a mode. It's like he hit something. And, you know, that's what, like, rap, it got to, and that's the thing. If niggas is, that's what, like, rappers, I feel, like, lose that ability to really put people in that mode where they want to, like, do better at business, work out, create, whatever they want to do. It's like, if you lose your, because it ain't nothing, it's nothing I said in this interview that's not what I would say in this interview.
01:51:58 Drink Champs: In real life.
01:51:59 Kanye West: Yeah, not, yeah, not that I wouldn't feel. And I think it's interesting that it comes off as shocking in any way. Because I'm not really saying nothing shocking. It's like, you know, you know John Legend will always show up and just do whatever them folks tell them to do, man, you know, that's not a shocking thing, man.
01:52:18 Drink Champs: No, no, no, I'm too much into this.
01:52:20 Drink Champs: Okay, Wu-Tang, Wu-Tang or N.W.A.?
01:52:26 Kanye West: Um, definitely Wu-Tang.
01:52:28 Drink Champs: Would you have me stumped if you said Wu-Tang or Mobb Deep?
01:52:31 Kanye West: Wu-Tang or Mobb Deep?
01:52:31 Drink Champs: Too late. They both from Virginia.
01:52:42 Drink Champs: All right. Damn, I'm going to skip this one. I'm going to go Ray or Ghost?
01:52:47 Kanye West: Sheesh. Is this right?
01:52:49 Kanye West: Well, Ghost. Because I'm a little bit more on the spectrum. I'm a little bit more on the crazier side of things. So I have a tendency to have been emotional in the past and to do things in an emotional way. And the funny thing is people say out there in the interview that, oh, yeah, you made it harder for yourself. I said, no, I made it easier for myself. Don't text me, nigga.
01:53:16 Kanye West: I don't want the cap. Like, period. I don't like caps. I made it. I want to simplify my amount of friends, you know, my amount of people that I go over their crib or to their spot and stuff. So, yeah, go ahead, though.
01:53:31 Drink Champs: Okay. I wasn't ready for none of this. Funk Flex or Kick It Free?
01:53:39 Kanye West: Oh, snap. DJ-wise, obviously. Yeah, Funk Flex because it was a part of, you know, people have hoop dreams. You have rap dreams. Funk Flex voice or you play it. I still be like, we got it. We play Otis. There is no Otis without Funk Flex.
01:53:54 Drink Champs: Man.
01:53:57 Kanye West: There's no Fabio on the album without Funk Flex. I heard him do the freestyle on Funk Flex and got him a jet.
01:54:01 Drink Champs: Farm Fabio.
01:54:04 Kanye West: Yeah, yeah, to Atlanta. I was hoping you was going to fly me out. I was like, yo, I want to be flewed out.
01:54:12 Drink Champs: I'm fucking with you guys. I like that term.
01:54:14 Kanye West: Yeah, so it's funny because Chris Rocker, we had the song, me and Jay had a song, Ham, and I was very into that tempo, the 60 or 120, 50, that tempo that Niggas of Paris eventually ended up being. And people did not like him. I remember Boo called me like, is that your, he texted me, that's your first single?
01:54:35 Drink Champs: Niggas of Paris or?
01:54:35 Kanye West: No, Ham.
01:54:36 Drink Champs: Ham. Was it Ham?
01:54:37 Kanye West: Now, mind you, Ham was the first time we ever saw the Givenchy dogs because we had Givenchy, Ricardo Tisci, head designer that did the gold cover that was doing all the Rock Wilders, did that cover. The first time you ever actually saw the dog was on me and Jay-Z for a single, Ham. So, we, I remember LeBron was losing in a championship and it actually said, who's watching the throne and I took a track off of what was going to be my album, Follow Up to Dark Fantasy that I heard when we all was at dinner and it, it, it was the Otis sample and I chopped it up and I was going to go to Milan to do something in fashion and I was about to be late for the flight and I had a Don C snapback on and a tank top and a Mercer just chopping up Otis.
01:55:27 Drink Champs: Otis.
01:55:27 Kanye West: Cause I was like, yo, we, we're not going to lose this game. We're not going to lose this game no matter what. I'm going to give you all this. We're going to, I took New Day off on my next album. I took Otis on my next album and we got into this big argument because he had this song called Holy Grail that he had Justin Timberlake singing on and I was like, we need to put this on his album. And then he's like, nah. And that's why everybody knows Jay is very selfish. And we had a very like, come on, it's Jay-Z man. We all love, we all love him, but you know, he's very selfish. And that was a, he'll say, he's like, man, I'm, I'm selfish. I'm selfish.
01:56:06 Drink Champs: Okay. So, um, he wouldn't give that song. I'm like, man, I'm giving all of this.
01:56:11 Drink Champs: Okay. So what you're saying is Holy Grail was originally supposed to be on Watch the Throne?
01:56:15 Kanye West: No, it was supposed to be on his album.
01:56:16 Drink Champs: Okay.
01:56:16 Kanye West: And I said, we need this cause we don't need to be losing like how LeBron and them had just lost in this championship. He wanted to make the album better. I wanted to make the album better. He wanted to say the album. It's something that I heard that.
01:56:28 Drink Champs: That's when y'all fell out? Cause like.
01:56:29 Kanye West: No, we fell out many times. It was my brother.
01:56:31 Drink Champs: Okay.
01:56:35 Kanye West: So whenever you do some Jay shit and I do some Ye shit, we don't say shit.
01:56:39 Drink Champs: Right.
01:56:44 Drink Champs: That's some real shit.
01:56:46 Drink Champs: That's some real shit.
01:56:46 Kanye West: So, um, when I, um, get lifted, I don't know why John Legend's voice just came up into my head right now.
01:56:59 Drink Champs: That's the drinks. I'm so ready for this.
01:57:09 Drink Champs: All right. So, um, uh, so anyway, um, what we saw about the Holy Grail.
01:57:18 Kanye West: No, no, Holy Grail, Holy Grail. We got mad about that. I was like, how I'm giving all this and you ain't giving the equal amount. And I find that in life, period. I, I, I, I, I find that, you know, I love Jay so much. It's like, I love the city of Chicago so much. And it was always like the same thing with Jay or Chicago. They always wanted it to be somebody more gangster.
01:57:41 Kanye West: They didn't want it to be Ye. That was, with Kim, maybe she wanted to be a ball player or something. You know, it was like nobody wanted it to be Ye. Or, you know, uh, with the LVM group, they wanted to be somebody that's more controllable. They didn't want it to be, you know, uh, they didn't want it to be Ye. And it's always like this uphill battle. I still, I, you know, it's so funny. I, I just could never erase the way Tata would look at me sometimes when I go to the, to the studio. And I always felt like it was an air that, like, no matter how big you get, nigga, fuck you. You know what I mean? Like that kind of thing. And that's how I always, that's how he always makes me feel. So whenever I like get mad at Jay, I get mad at Tata at the same time. I always like, I kind of pull him into the, the same thing. Cause you know, you'll never forget that. You know what I'm saying? Like, nigga, what's wrong with my polo type, you know? Like, you ain't going to look me into a, a throwback.
01:58:44 Drink Champs: Holy moly.
01:58:44 Kanye West: I'm going to keep my polo on. Actually, but they wrote, people, all, all the Rockefeller wrote throwbacks because of me real talk.
01:58:51 Drink Champs: Okay.
01:58:51 Kanye West: Because I would go down to Atlanta and they had the Michelinette stand in the middle of the Lenox mall. And I'd take my little producer money. And I was just, I'm, I'm a Garmento at the end of the day. My family made the first bootleg Louis Vuitton jogging suits. Cause they would like, um, when they would confiscate the drugs inside the Louis Vuitton bags, they cut up the bags. My family went and would take the patches and put them on the clothes. So that means like when they had Howard Hughes died, they called it the Aviator. My film going to be called Garmento. Cause I am the biggest person, like I said, in every interview I've ever been in, the biggest person I've ever existed in fashion. You could Google it for the past three years. Yeezy has been the number one, most Googled brand, most valuable brand on the planet. Don't hit the horns, don't hit no claps. I'm still, I'm still in the midst of something.
01:59:40 Drink Champs: Okay, go, go, go.
01:59:40 Kanye West: So back, but somehow we, we drifted to, uh, the clothing.
01:59:43 Drink Champs: You're the biggest nigga in fashion. Let's just stick with you there.
01:59:45 Kanye West: No, no, it was something in the train of thought that I wanted to say before I got to the thing about my family.
01:59:50 Drink Champs: He was talking about the throwbacks.
01:59:52 Kanye West: Throwbacks, yeah. So I would come back to baseline and I have like the Astros on or something. And then Jay would be like, you know, where'd you get that from? I was like, Atlanta. Then I'd come with another one. He's like, oh. I'd come with a third one and say, what you living in Atlanta, nigga?
02:00:10 Kanye West: So also Don C always been like on like that, you know, hype beast kind of like selling clothes online since day one. Back when the, back when the letters was green on the computer screen. And he would be buying stuff for cheaper. And Fab would go and buy his throwbacks from Don.
02:00:29 Kanye West: Fab the artist. And this is before Don became my manager.
02:00:32 Drink Champs: Right.
02:00:32 Kanye West: But by the time when me and Don came together, we really, that's what Jim Jones would tell you, that's what we revolutionized it. Because we used to sit there and be like, when we get money, niggas ain't going to be able to see us. When we get this money. And it was me and Don to just be sitting there like, yo, we get this. And when I got it, went to the Louis store, got all these Louis bags, started doing the shoots with that. I even bought like the Louis suede. It kind of looked like this jacket and stuff. It's this one shoot where I got the glasses, the jacket, the Louis bags. And he's like, what are you doing with all that Louis luggage and stuff? I don't know. It made me feel regal or something like, or some coming to America type vibe. So now Don got a store. Right now, I'm in the process of, you know, I've asked nicely to get my own Balenciaga store because I like my pool.
02:01:23 Kanye West: You know, sometimes people say, they'll go to Balenciaga store and they'll be like, man, they don't look like how Yang can be looking and this and that. And I'm like.
02:01:32 Drink Champs: Your pool means your pick, right?
02:01:32 Kanye West: My pick are the clothes that I picked.
02:01:34 Drink Champs: What is the affiliation with Balenciaga? Because a lot of people got mad at Gucci when Gucci came out with this, this lips where they was mocking black people. A lot of people thought that. But Balenciaga and Gucci is, are they related?
02:01:49 Kanye West: Yeah, it's the same group. It's Francois Pino. It's one of my favorite people. I like, you know, these are my, what do you call, not counterparts, but like when y'all work in the same field.
02:02:04 Drink Champs: Your peers?
02:02:04 Kanye West: Yeah, these are my peers. You know, Bernard Arnault is my peer. Pino is my peer. Renzo Rose is my peer. Elon is my peer. Did you ask this?
02:02:13 Kanye West: Bezos is my peer. Jack Ma is my peer.
02:02:16 Drink Champs: Jesus.
02:02:16 Kanye West: I just want y'all to understand who my peers are.
02:02:19 Drink Champs: Jesus. Jesus. Jesus.
02:02:22 Kanye West: No, no, no. That's fine.
02:02:24 Drink Champs: All the rest is dead.
02:02:25 Kanye West: Yeah, yeah.
02:02:26 Drink Champs: Holy shit. Okay.
02:02:27 Drink Champs: Those are your peers.
02:02:28 Kanye West: Steve Jobs, Disney, Hughes.
02:02:30 Drink Champs: Okay, now, yes, this is the same company, but man, how about we start owning some stock or some land? What we own?
02:02:40 Kanye West: Braids.
02:02:41 Drink Champs: You can't have braids.
02:02:47 Drink Champs: What we own, the N-word?
02:02:49 Kanye West: You can't say nigga. But you can't buy your house.
02:02:53 Drink Champs: You telling somebody what they can't do?
02:02:55 Kanye West: The person they own the block can say whatever the fuck they want to say. And we talking about this our block.
02:03:00 Drink Champs: You don't own the block.
02:03:02 Kanye West: And you know how you own the block? First of all, it's not even what you financially do on it. It's the way you're taking care of the block. But that's easy for me to say, right? I had both my parents amazingly attractive and talented. You know, but we are put, like we say, crabs in a barrel. We are in a barrel. We're not going to put the 40 acres in a mule. And the more and more we look at, like, the numbers on YouTube with this, you know, the, you know, bust. I don't even got a watch right now. Pastor gave me a Timex that I wore. I had that one where I had, like, this, uh, 200. Yeah, I actually bought it that day and I gave it away that day.
02:03:53 Drink Champs: Where was I at?
02:03:56 Drink Champs: You missed that giveaway.
02:03:57 Kanye West: No, it's this pastor. And he had no idea what that watch was. When I was taping, I was at a church called Grace Farms. It's designed by these architects I love named Sana out of Japan. This is where I went, boom. So that shit at the bottom of the screen. Boom, boom, boom, boom. So the pastor was talking to me. He said something. He's like, man, you know why racism? Because he's a white pastor. So he wouldn't just instantly talk to me about racism. He said, man, racism is wrong. It's because, you know, God don't make junk. And I was thinking, like, don't say it like that, man. Don't worry. It's like, no. That's not your explanation for racism. But this man, I'm talking to him about, man, I want to pull my family back together. I'm assuming this interview is not that helpful to that. But the...
02:04:41 Drink Champs: It is.
02:04:42 Drink Champs: I don't think it'll hurt. Don't worry about it. You good.
02:04:43 Kanye West: Yeah, I think so. Because I got to get the people up out of life that shouldn't be in the life. That's my wife at the end of the day. So it's like, I'm using it. Because, by the way, I can't do nothing illegal. But this is legal. Ain't it?
02:04:53 Drink Champs: So I'm the priest of my home. So if I need the nanny to get up out there and the publicist to get out there, that's what...
02:04:59 Drink Champs: Yeah.
02:04:59 Drink Champs: That's your family, huh?
02:05:00 Kanye West: That's my family.
02:05:02 Drink Champs: Right.
02:05:02 Kanye West: That's real shit.
02:05:03 Kanye West: That's my family, E.
02:05:04 Drink Champs: That's real shit.
02:05:05 Kanye West: That's my family, Hulu.
02:05:06 Drink Champs: Right.
02:05:08 Kanye West: That's my family, Hulu.
02:05:12 Kanye West: That's my family, Hulu.
02:05:14 Drink Champs: Real shit.
02:05:16 Kanye West: You know what I'm saying? Y'all should have killed me at George Bush. Don't care about black people. It's up now.
02:05:19 Drink Champs: Yeah. It's up.
02:05:20 Kanye West: It's up. And this is my family also. That's why I'm here.
02:05:24 Drink Champs: Let me ask you, let me ask you, one of the, one of the beautifulest things.
02:05:31 Kanye West: And get lifted. It's my family. And ass, ass, ass, ass.
02:05:36 Kanye West: I said, man, do not make your first song be called ass. I always want to make a song that if I'm going through the airport and people sing my song, it's my theme music. When you go through the airport, everybody screams out, ass, ass, ass, ass.
02:05:53 Drink Champs: Gotta make your ass up.
02:05:54 Drink Champs: So, one of the beautiful things I've seen you do is after DMX passed.
02:06:00 Kanye West: Give me my tombstone. Go ahead.
02:06:01 Drink Champs: After DMX passed, you not only, you know, did design the shirt that I got on right now, but you also attended the funeral.
02:06:09 Kanye West: That's a good circle. The head of Balenciaga designed that shirt.
02:06:13 Drink Champs: Oh, okay.
02:06:13 Kanye West: And that's when we started building a relationship because he did a Halloween costume. First of all, he worked at Yeezy season one.
02:06:23 Drink Champs: Wait a minute. Wait. The head of Balenciaga worked at Yeezy?
02:06:26 Kanye West: Yes.
02:06:27 Drink Champs: Holy shit.
02:06:27 Kanye West: So, we're in the apartment where my wife got robbed.
02:06:35 Drink Champs: In France.
02:06:35 Drink Champs: In Paris, right?
02:06:36 Kanye West: In Paris, right? Okay. So, this is before then. And inside of this, we got Kim Shrub, the head of Skims. She used to be creative director at Yeezy. I brought over the Skims. They had these weird black wire bras and stuff like that. And I was like, I'm going to give you my creative director because the people that you're in business with, they're just trying to use your name. They don't really care about the product. And usually, that's how these numbers guys are. And then, they start seeing people love the product. Oh, so we care about the product.
02:07:06 Kanye West: In the apartment, you had Jerry Lorenzo. You had Virgil Abloh. You had Kim Shrub. You had me. You had a few others. I have Lucette, who's the head shoe designer at Yeezy. Now, we have Mark Miner, who we got from Nike, who's the head of Yeezy Adidas. And you have Demna, the head of Balenciaga. That's what I'm saying. I'm a community builder. I'm going to put together the right people at all times. But the people that have in the past been in a position of power are going to try to separate Jay and Dame. Separate my mom and my dad. Separate me and Virgil. So, you see the pattern? That makes it impossible for black Wall Street. But Wall Street forever begins simply because I thought about it the way Kamen said. I thought of our community growing. When we're not forced to make the choice of whether or not we can afford to have a child. When we're not forced to say, I'm going to have to kill this nigga because he said this and this. He said, you know, you never hear about Jewish on Jewish crime. You know, they kill each other in business in a different kind of way, but not actually physically taking a life.
02:08:14 Kanye West: So, when me and Q went into business on a big three, what I said, I said to him, I said, what we have to do to honor God is we're going to be noble. We're not killing each other on business. Business always be like 30-page contracts and us doing or getting some. I don't negotiate. I don't do a contract that's more than one page. It's very hard to get me to sign something at all. Why I need to sign something? I pay cash. I don't even pay monthly. I just pay. I pay half and half. Somebody like, oh, I want, you know, 300 a year, 200 a year, whatever. I'm like, give me your account number and then get that 150. And in six months, if you did a good job, you get another 150. If you run off after six months, then we just ain't going to be working again until you apologize. Because I'm the most forgiving person. Because I still believe in you even when you being less than you are. I got to realize if people take advantage of me, that's something, that's them, they lives being taken advantage of. Because I'm a walking Vic. I'm a target. I just say yes to anything. I just can't say no. I'm here to only say yes. That's the key to life.
02:09:22 Drink Champs: You get what I'm saying?
02:09:22 Kanye West: Jeff Carey in the movie, Yes Man.
02:09:24 Drink Champs: Yeah, Yes Man.
02:09:25 Kanye West: I'm the Yes Man. Anybody, someone, you want my... When me and my dad bonded, my dad used to have to say, I'm working on this water purification center. I found this new spot. It's going to cost us a million to buy the land. And my dad is pitching to me. My dad ain't had to do one thing for me. He only had to do one thing nut. He ain't got to do nothing. That's all my dad ever had to do was nut. He ain't got to ask me for nothing else.
02:09:56 Kanye West: He made me. I told my dad the other day, I said, look, call Andre, who's my cousin. He used to work at Ernest Young. I'm always screaming at him. He does accounting right now. I said, call Andre. Anything in my account is available to you. And if you spend it all up, I'm just going to make more money.
02:10:17 Drink Champs: Wow.
02:10:17 Drink Champs: Jesus.
02:10:17 Kanye West: And that's a multi-billion dollar situation. That means every dream that the real Steve Jobs, my dad had, my dad, the real Steve Jobs.
02:10:27 Drink Champs: Wow.
02:10:28 Kanye West: But he didn't make Gold Digger. He didn't get the Yeezy. He didn't have the opportunity. But guess what? He made an earner. Like hoop dreams. Like when somebody's son make it to the league. I made it to the league. My dad is a Christian counselor. My dad sleep in homeless shelters and counsel people. My dad has a water purification center in the Dominican Republic. I'm just my dad. Everything I do that has any kind of nobility in that place is of my dad. Anything I do that's in entertainment is of my mom and education because my mom is an educator. So what I'm saying is, but I would be the type of person that's making my dad give me a PDF.
02:11:12 Kanye West: You're my dad. I know I bought your girlfriend's TV.
02:11:14 Drink Champs: Listen.
02:11:17 Drink Champs: Where did we go with this?
02:11:18 Kanye West: But moving forward, right?
02:11:21 Drink
02:11:21 Kanye West: Father God.
02:11:22 Drink Champs: We went from PDF to titties, man. PDF titties. I know what you used some of that money on. But moving forward, right? Because we spoke on the phone. It was a great conversation. This is not things that a man of God should do or say. And one of the things that you said to me was, you're out of Def Jam.
02:11:42 Drink Champs: And I felt like you related being out of Def Jam and changing your name. In like the same category.
02:11:51 Drink Champs: And what's the question on that?
02:11:53 Drink Champs: Because I'm so, my question is, why? Like, after all these years, what are you doing moving forward? Are you going to be independent? Like, is your next album going to be on Ye? Hey, it's going to be on your label? Or how does this work?
02:12:08 Kanye West: I'm going to go public. My thought that I have right now that I'm going to say I have to put it into fruition so other people can figure out how to make it is. Because I have the biggest brand on the planet with Yeezy, with Donda. You know, the richest man on the planet is Bernard Arno. His last two employees used to work for me.
02:12:26 Drink Champs: Jesus.
02:12:27 Kanye West: So we have the biggest brand. We moved the Gap stock by $2 billion in like an hour when you put my name next to it. And so I'm going to go, I'm going to take myself public and create a universal basic income and go public for a T.
02:12:53 Kanye West: Do we all know what a T is?
02:12:56 Drink Champs: No.
02:12:57 Kanye West: A trillion.
02:12:57 Drink Champs: Yeah, but publicly traded public.
02:12:59 Kanye West: Yes. And make a universal, not even universal basic income, but universal wealth. Because if everybody has $100,000 a year, some people can spend it wrong, right, right. But it changes what we value. Right now they're pumping so many logos and so many, you know, all the wrong kind of concepts. But it's inside of us. We collectively are God. We as a collection, God is in us. So collectively we are God. As we move, like when they move around Mecca, when you see that, you see God inside of that, the way those people are moving. Once we move and we realize that we just all have to be on one accord, like to do what Quincy Jones did in the studio, but do that to our life, that we all in one accord. When I go and say something just about Drake, about John Legend, I'm just tuning the note so that we can play a symphony.
02:14:03 Drink Champs: I'll be scared to stop you now, man.
02:14:07 Kanye West: Okay, holy moly, I forgot we're still on QuickTime and Slime.
02:14:07 Drink Champs: I'll just, okay, this is the last one, fuck it, because I got more, but it's, oh no, I got two more, that's it.
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