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Introduction and Initial Exchange
In this 2013 interview on The Breakfast Club,
Kanye West joined hosts DJ Envy, Angela Yee, and Charlamagne Tha God for a conversation that quickly became confrontational. The interview began with Charlamagne addressing West as "Kanye Kardashian," immediately setting a combative tone. The hosts inquired about West's recent performances at venues like Barclays Center and Madison Square Garden, which featured elaborate stage designs including mountains and snow - productions that went beyond typical hip-hop concerts.
Discussion About Yeezus and Creative Expression
A significant portion of the conversation centered on West's then-recent album
"Yeezus" and his approach to creativity. West explained that rap is just one chamber of his creative expression, comparing himself to a modern-day poet. He discussed how his art school background influences his work and how creating makes him feel younger. Charlamagne directly stated that he disliked "Yeezus," calling it "weird," while West defended the project as intentionally challenging and experimental. West expressed frustration about being "marginalized and held back" as an artist, referencing historical examples like Michael Jackson being initially restricted from MTV because he was considered an "urban artist."
Business Ventures and Corporate Relationships
West spoke extensively about his business aspirations and frustrations with corporations like Nike. He detailed disputes over royalties for his Yeezy sneakers, expressing disappointment that Nike wouldn't offer him the same financial agreements given to professional athletes. West explained that his public outbursts were strategic attempts to force corporations to take his creative ventures seriously.Charlamagne consistently challenged West on what he perceived as contradictions, particularly questioning how West could denounce corporations while simultaneously seeking their backing. West responded by clarifying that he wasn't against corporations themselves but against certain corporate practices and individuals who wouldn't fully recognize his value and creative vision.
Race, Class, and Cultural Influence
Throughout the interview, West connected his personal struggles with broader issues of race and class in America. He discussed the limited number of Black billionaires globally and argued that Black people often lack the connections and resources available to others. West stated that his ultimate goal was to elevate his influence and financial position to create opportunities for others.He repeatedly stressed the cultural impact of his work, from music to fashion, and expressed frustration when his influence wasn't acknowledged by established institutions. West described feeling trapped between creative authenticity and commercial expectations, suggesting that his provocative statements were necessary to bring attention to larger issues of inequality.
Personal Relationships and Career Choices
When asked about his decision to side with Jay-Z rather than Dame Dash during their split (despite Dame being an early supporter), West explained that he wanted to learn Jay-Z's "technique" of being likable while maintaining his authenticity. He spoke about his relationship with his artists at Good Music, stating that anyone who makes "good music" is essentially part of his label regardless of formal arrangements.The hosts also inquired about West's HBO special that never materialized, to which he responded that he wasn't a professional actor but a "professional dreamer."
The "Bound 2" Video Discussion
Charlamagne specifically criticized the
music video for
"Bound 2", calling it "terrible." West defended the video, explaining that he intentionally created something that looked "as phony as possible" with clouds and mountains going in different directions as a form of performance art. He described it as a commentary on "The Hunger Games" and typical mainstream imagery, with the only difference being "a black dude in the middle of it."
Confrontations About Materialism and Revolution
One of the most pointed exchanges came when Charlamagne accused West of being "too materialistic" and questioned why West equated freedom with money. Charlamagne noted that real revolutionaries like Malcolm X and Martin Luther King Jr. weren't rich but still changed the world. West countered by arguing that in today's context, having financial resources and ownership is necessary to maintain a voice and create lasting impact.
Closing Thoughts and Future Plans
As the interview concluded, West reflected on his career trajectory and future ambitions. He compared himself to a combination of Steve Jobs, Walt Disney, and Michelangelo in terms of his goals and vision. Despite the contentious nature of much of the interview, West acknowledged that he was trying to become "a better person" and expressed that he valued both the "hate and support" from the hosts.West teased that his next album would be more accessible (comparing it to Bruce Springsteen's "Born in the USA" which followed the more experimental "Nebraska"), and invited Charlamagne to visit him in Paris - though jokingly offering him a coach ticket rather than the private jet he would arrange for others.The interview ended with a mix of tension and mutual respect, capturing West at a pivotal moment in his career as he attempted to transition from music into broader creative and business ventures.*There may be errors on this page.